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Select Budget Committee 10/18/19 Session II

Select Budget Committee 10/18/19 Session II


>>>GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK, THIS IS OCTOBER 2019, OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE, WE ARE COMING BACK TO ORDER, TO PROCEED WITH BUSINESS. WE HAVE THREE HOURS THIS MORNING, WHEN WE WERE TOGETHER, AND TALKED ABOUT AS DAUGHTERS, SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AND ALSO OUR FIRST INFORMATION ABOUT TMC’S, AND THIS AFTERNOON WE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON THE WORKERS ISSUE AND THE TMC PROJECT WHAT KIND OF PROTECTION THAT CAN PROVIDE WORKERS, SO THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR MAIN FOCUS THIS AFTERNOON. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE FOR MY COLLEAGUES, AND FOR THE RECORD, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT TNC’S, AND ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE TAX-FREE REDUCTION, AND SPENDING RESOLUTION, THERE WAS A CORRECTION AT COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF, AND AMY GORE MENTIONED THAT, THANK YOU FOR THAT, EARLIER TODAY. AND SO THAT CHART HAS BEEN UPDATED TO ACCURATELY REFLECT THE ESTIMATED REVENUES, WITH THE PROPOSED .82 TAX OPTION. SO, THANK YOU FOR DOING IT. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT SO EARLY, AND BEING ABLE TO GIVE US AN UPDATED CHART. OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE TNC’S, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYBODY FOR COMING, AND JUST A REMINDER, ONCE AGAIN. OUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY, PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC MEETING, THE NEXT BIG ONE WILL BE THIS UPCOMING TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22nd AT 5:30 IN CHAMBERS. EVERYBODY IS WELCOME, AND EVERYBODY WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK UNLESS YOU ARE IN A GROUP, AND WE WILL HAVE A FIVE- MINUTE TOTAL. OKAY, SO LET’S GET GOING HERE, WE HAVE PROTECTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, ARE YOU AND LISA GOING TO TAKE IT? >>I AM KARINA BULL, WITH CENTRAL STAFF. >>NICE TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE. THANK YOU. >>I WILL LEAD, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. AS NOTED, THE NEXT ROUND OF TODAY’S DISCUSSION WILL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR’S SUITE OF PROPOSALS, RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES, REFERRED TO AS TNC. THE MAYOR HAS TRANSMITTED FIVE PIECES OF LEGISLATION FOR THE COUNCIL’S CONSIDERATION. EARLIER TODAY, AMY GORE, FROM CENTRAL STAFF DISCUSSED AN ORDINANCE DISCUSSING EXISTING TNC LICENSING FEES, A NEW TAX ON TNC RIDES, AND PRIORITIES REVENUE DONATED BY THE NEW TAX. THE FOCUS NOW IS ON TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ESTABLISH WORKER PROTECTIONS FOR TNC DRIVERS. THE TNC MINIMUM COMPENSATION ORDINANCE, AND THE TNC DEACTIVATION RIGHTS ORDINANCE. I WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THE ISSUES FACING TNC DRIVERS, AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSALS, AND IDENTIFYING ISSUES FOR POSSIBLE POLICY CONSIDERATION. FOR REFERENCE, THERE IS A BUDGET DELIBERATION PAPER, AND THE TEXT OF THE PIECES OF LEGISLATION ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN THERE IS THIS SLIDE DECK, TO PROVIDE SOME VISUAL FLAIR FOR THE DISCUSSION. >>AND AS YOU ARE GOING TO VISUAL FLAIR, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBERS, COUNCILMEMBER LORENA GONZALES AND COUNCILMEMBER ABEL PACHECO . THANK YOU. GIVE US A FLARE. >>THERE IT IS, SO, FIRST PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS REGARDING THE TNC MINIMUM COMPENSATION ORDINANCE. BACKGROUND FOR THIS LEGISLATION IS THAT THE TNC’S RELY ON A BUSINESS MODEL THAT CLASSIFIES DRIVERS AS INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE PROTECTIONS OF SEATTLE’S MINIMUM WAGE, AND OTHER WORK PLACE LAWS. WHICH INCLUDE PROTECTIONS AGAINST DISCRIMINATION, WAGE AND HOUR REQUIREMENTS, SUCH AS MILITARIES AND REST BREAKS, AND REIMBURSEMENT FOR OTHER EXPENSES, THEY ALSO DO NOT RECEIVE WORKER BENEFITS, LIKE BASICALLY, WORKERS COMPENSATION, INSURANCE, AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO PAY THEIR OWN EQUIVALENT OF PAYROLL TAXES. THERE WAS MORE BACKGROUND, THERE WAS A STUDY LAST YEAR BY THE ECONOMIC POLICY INSTITUTE THAT SAID THAT NATIONWIDE, UBER DRIVERS EARN ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF $11.77, AFTER DEDUCTING UBER FEES, AND VEHICLE EXPENSES. THAT WENT DOWN TO $10.87, WHEN ALSO DEDUCTING THE EQUIVALENT OF PAYROLL TAXES, AND THEN LANDED AT $9.21 AN HOUR, AFTER DEDUCTING AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT FOR THE COST OF A MOTIVE MODEST BENEFITS PACKAGE. SO, THE MAYOR’S PROPOSED LEGISLATION IS ON THE NEED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE GAPS, AND IT DOES SO THROUGH AN EVALUATION PROCESS TO DEVELOP A MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD FOR TNC DRIVERS. AND THEN, THE SECOND PIECE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE MAYOR TO TRANSMIT LEGISLATION TO RECOMMEND IMPLEMENTATION OF A MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD. FOR THE EVALUATION PROCESS, THE GOALPOST IS FOR IT TO BE COMPLETED BY MARCH 31st OF NEXT YEAR. FINANCE, AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES WOULD CONDUCT THE STUDY, AND COORDINATION WITH THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS. AND, THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT TO LOOK AT A RANGE OF DATA SOURCES, AND ENGAGE WITH STAKEHOLDERS, AND TO EVENTUALLY COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD, THAT WOULD BE COMPRISED OF AT LEAST THE SEATTLE MINIMUM WAGE FOR LARGE EMPLOYERS, WHICH NEXT YEAR WILL BE $60.39. AND THAT WOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY REASONABLE EXPENSES, WHICH WOULD BE COMPRISED OF MILEAGE COST, THAT IS A VEHICLE EXPENSES, AND ALSO NON-MILEAGE COST, WHICH WOULD BE PAYMENT FOR THINGS SUCH AS PAYROLL TAXES, THE EQUIVALENT OF SICK LEAVE, FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE, AND SOME DIFFERENT KINDS OF INSURANCE. FAS WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO CONSIDER PAYMENT FOR THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TIME, THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A TNC RIGHT, THEY ARE REFERRED TO THE AVAILABLE TIME, DISPATCH TIME, AND PASSENGER PLATFORM TIME, BASICALLY THAT ENCOMPASSES THE TIME THAT A TMC DRIVER IS WAITING FOR A RIDE, DRIVING TO A RIGHT TO PICK UP A PASSENGER, AND THAT ACTUALLY HAS THE PASSENGER IN THE VEHICLE. THE CONTENT OF THE STUDY, AS I ALREADY MENTIONED WOULD INCLUDE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, THE ORDINANCE DOES LAYOUT– OR LEGISLATION LAYS OUT POSSIBLE 12 AREAS OF EVALUATION. AND PERMITS FAS TO COMMIT WITH AN ACADEMIC OR POLICY ORGANIZATION FOR PART OF THE STUDY, THE EXECUTIVE ALSO SAYS THAT THERE ARE PLANS TO PARTNER WITH DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS FOR OUTREACH. THE FUTURE LEGISLATION WOULD NEED TO BE TRANSMITTED BY ME, FIRST, BY NEXT YEAR. THERE IS NO STATED DATE FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LEGISLATION, BUT THE EXECUTIVES PUBLIC MATERIALS HAVE INDICATED JULY 1 AS A GOALPOST. ANY QUESTIONS, THUS FAR? >>ARE– >>GO AHEAD, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >>I JUST SORT OF NEED TO KNOW WHEN YOU ARE SWITCHING, I CAN WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE COMPENSATION PIECE, WE AREN’T GOING TO DEACTIVATION? >>THERE ARE TWO ISSUES FOR IDENTIFICATION WITH A MINIMUM COMPENSATION. >>JUST KEEP GOING– >>SO, IN THE AREAS OF EVALUATION, THERE LEGISLATION SUGGESTS 12 POSSIBLE AREAS THAT ARE NOT MANDATED, AND IT IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, THERE WAS AN ISSUE I.D., THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT SIGNALS THE COUNCILS INTENT TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE TNC FEES THAT ARE APPLIED TO EVERY RIDE OF A DRIVER, THE BUSINESS MODEL IS PREMISED UPON THE TNC’S SUBTRACTING CERTAIN AMOUNTS FROM THE PASSENGER FAIR, AND THAT COULD INCLUDE– IT IS A SERVICE FEE,, COMMISSIONS, THERE COULD BE A CANCELLATION FEE IF THAT HAPPENS, SO THE STUDY– IF THIS WAS IDENTIFIED BY THE LEGISLATION, COULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE PASSENGER FAIR OUT OF THAT AMOUNT, WHAT DOES THE DRIVER EARN, AND WHAT DOES THE DNC EARN TO PROVIDE A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF INFORMATION TO HELP INFORM THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION? THE NEXT ITEM THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A TECHNICAL ISSUE, AND IN THIS LEGISLATION, THE CONCEPT OF DISPATCH PLATFORM TIME IS CRITICAL TO THE EVALUATION, IT IS NOT DEFINED IN THIS LEGISLATION, THE DEFINITION WOULD NOT NEED TO BE REINVENTED, OR INVENTED, IT JUST COULD BE PORTED OVER FROM THE OTHER ORDINANCE, REGARDING DRIVER DEACTIVATION RIGHTS, SO IT IS MORE OF A TECHNICAL ISSUE. >>OKAY. >>PLEASE, GO AHEAD. >>THANKS FOR THAT OVERVIEW COULD, KATRINA. I AM SAYING P1 AND P2 IS THAT THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY? SO THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT COMPLEX WORK THAT THE CITY WILL UNDERTAKE. GOOD WORK, BUT COMPLEX, I THINK. BECAUSE– WELL, LET ME ASK YOU A DIRECT QUESTION, DO WE THINK WE HAVE FROM THE TNC’S, THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET NOW, EITHER PUBLICLY, OR THROUGH DIRECT CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM, THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO DO THIS WORK? OR DO WE STILL NEED TO GET INFORMATION FROM THEM, TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THE DRIVER COMPENSATION? >>MY SON SAYS THE LETTER, WHERE MORE INFORMATION WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DON’T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION WOULD NEED TO BE GATHERED, BUT THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE COLLECTED THIS INFORMATION, AND THAT INFORMATION COULD BE WEIGHTED TO APPLY TO THE SIZE OF SEATTLE, THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN SEATTLE, NEW YORK CITY HAS DEVELOPED THEIR OWN MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD, AND SO, THEY HAVE A LENGTHY REPORT, SO, THEY HAVE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. AND SO, THAT COULD PROVIDE A BASELINE OF INFORMATION, I AM SENSING. >>SO, THE REASON I ASK IS JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, AND I LIKE THE PACKAGE THAT CAME TO US, FROM THE MAYOR, AND WE ARE TRYING TO DIGEST IT THROUGH THE BUDGET, BUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS– AS I SAID, DURING THE EARLIER SESSIONS, IT HAS BEEN TOUGH GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE TNC’S, AND WE ARE NOW TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MINIMUM COMPENSATION, AS WE SHOULD. AS I LOOK FORWARD TO. BUT STILL, ALMOST A DELAY TACTIC, AS WE ARE RELYING– ONE APPROACH COULD HAVE BEEN, WE JUST SAID– WE JUST SAY THAT EVEN THESE DRIVERS CAN SET A MINIMUM WAGE FOR THESE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. EACH INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR WILL MAKE 16, 239 AN HOUR. AND THEN THE ONUS IS ON THE DRIVER TO SAY WHY DIDN’T– COST EVERYTHING ELSE AND THAT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR US TO. BUT THAT WAS AN APPROACH I CONSIDERED SOME TIME AGO, WE DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE TARGET IS, TO SAY HERE IT IS. ON THE P1 P2, P3 MODEL WHEN DRIVERS ARE DRIVING ON MULTIPLE PLATFORMS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO PAY? SAY THEY ARE DRIVING FOR UBER RIDE LIFT, SO WHO’S DIME ARE THEY ON, SO TO SPEAK? IT IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE COMPLEX ON GETTING THIS INFORMATION. IT CAN BE DONE, WITH SOME COOPERATION, BUT, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, AND YOU TOLD ME THE ANSWERS WHETHER WE HAD THE EXISTING INFORMATION HOW TO FIGURE THIS STUFF OUT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM THE TNC’S. >>YES, THERE IS DIFFERENT THAN FROM APPROACH TO THE DRIVERS IN NEW YORK CITY, WHAT THEY CALL A UTILIZATION RATE, AND THAT UTILIZATION RATE REFERS TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE DRIVER HAS A PASSENGER IN THE CAR, AND SO, IF THEY ARE, EVERY HOUR 30 MINUTES WITH A PASSENGER IN THEIR CAR, THE UTILIZATION RATE WOULD BE 50%, AND SO WHEN A DRIVER PICKS UP A PASSENGER, THEN WHATEVER PLATFORM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT RIDE WOULD END OF PAYING FOR THAT AVAILABLE TIME, THE P1 TIME, AND THEN THE UTILIZATION RATE WOULD HELP TO INFORM WHAT THE PAYMENT WOULD NEED TO BE FOR THE DRIVER. THERE’S DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT METHODS OF GOING ABOUT THAT. AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED OF THE LEGISLATION FOR THE EVALUATION TO THINK ABOUT. >>CAN I ASK A QUESTION THAT IS RELATES TO FEES AND COSTS HERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY TO WHAT THE DRIVER GETS? AND THAT SEARCH PRICING? THERE’S TIMES WHEN, AS WE ALL KNOW, WHEN THE COST OF A RIGHT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN OTHER TIMES, AND DOES THE DRIVER GET ANY OF THAT? OR DOES IT ALL GO TO THE COMPANY? BECAUSE IT DOESN’T SEEM RIGHT TO ME THAT IF THE DRIVER IS STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC, CAN’T GET TO PICK UP THE PASSENGER, THAT THE COMPANY IS GETTING THE ADDITIONAL– THE SURGE PRICES CONTRASTED TO GOING INTO THE DRIVER’S POCKET. >>I DON’T HAVE A SOLID ANSWER FOR THAT, BUT MY KNOWLEDGE IS THAT THE TNC’S ARE CHARGING A SERVICE FEE, AND A COMMISSION ON EVERY FAIR, AND SO, IF THE COMMISSION IS CONSISTENTLY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, THAT IS 33%, THEN MY SENSE WOULD BE, IF THE PASSENGER IS PAYING MORE, THAN THE DRIVER WOULD GET– YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE THE BALANCE OF THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PAYING, I DON’T KNOW IF THAT IS ACTUALLY THE CASE. BUT AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED IN THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION, AS AN AREA OF EVALUATION. I THINK IT FALLS INTO THE LANGUAGE OF TNC INCENTIVES, IF THERE IS AN INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT TNC INCENTIVES INCLUDE SEARCH PRICING, THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE LEGISLATION AS WELL, AS A PARENTHETICAL. >>ONE– THANK YOU, ONE ISSUE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AS WELL, AND I RAISE THIS PUBLICLY, IS I THINK THIS IS GREAT WORK WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE DRIVER MINIMUM COMPENSATIN FOR THE TNC’S. ALL OF THIS WORK WE ARE DOING WILL STILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON LEGACY TAXI DRIVERS, AND FOR HIRE DRIVERS. THIS ABUNDANT OF VEHICLES, ON THE STREETS, TRANSPORTING PEOPLE HAS A NEGATIVE EFFECT– THAT IS WHY THIS MORNING I BROUGHT UP THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS VOUCHER CONCEPT. AND SO, IN THIS WORK– THIS BODY OF WORK, ONE OF THE IDEAS I HAVE JUST EXPLORED IS HOW IT EVEN AFFECTS THE LEGACY TAXI DRIVERS AS WELL. THEY ARE STILL COMPETING, THEY ARE STILL IN THE SAME SPACE, AND AGAIN, EVEN FROM THE TAXI DRIVERS, WE ARE GETTING CONFLICTING INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY ARE MAKING. WE ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THE TNC DRIVERS, AND RIGHTFULLY SO, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF TAXI DRIVERS OUT THERE AS WELL, THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE A DECENT WAGE. >>ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. >>THE NEXT ORDINANCE IS THE TNC DRIVER DEACTIVATION ORDINANCE. AS BACKGROUND, LET’S MOVE AHEAD, THERE IT IS. AS BACKGROUND FOR THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION, BOTH GOOBER AND LIVED, THE TWO LARGEST TNC’S, OPERATING IN SEATTLE, REQUIRE DRIVERS TO SIGN A MANDATORY ARBITRATION AGREEMENT. AS A TERM OF SERVICE, AND, WHEN THIS IS ASSIGNED, IT MEANS THAT THE DRIVER WAVES RIGHTS TO A DISPUTE IN A COURT OF LAW. THIS KIND OF MANDATORY ARBITRATION AGREEMENT IS BECOMING MORE COMMON IN EMPLOYMENT AND CONSUMER CONTRACTS, IT HAS INCREASED, FROM 1992 TO 2%, TO OVER 55% OF EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS, IN THAT 27 YEAR PERIOD, THERE ARE A RANGE OF CONSEQUENCES FROM MANDATORY ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS, THERE HAVE BEEN STUDIES BY ECONOMIC POLICY INSTITUTE, AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT SHOW THAT WHEN WORKERS ARE ENGAGED IN PRIVATE ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS, THERE ARE FEWER INSTANCES OF WORKERS WINNING THOSE CASES, THERE ARE LOWER DAMAGES THAN IN A COURT OF LAW, AND BECAUSE OF THIS, FEWER FILINGS. SO, AGAIN, THE MAYOR’S PROPOSAL FOR THIS LEGISLATION, PREMISED ON ANOTHER EXIGENT NEED IS LEGISLATION THAT PROPOSES A SEPARATE PROCESS FOR TNC DRIVERS TO CHALLENGE DEACTIVATION. SO, RIGHT NOW, IF A DRIVER WAS DEACTIVATED AND FELT IT WAS UNFAIR, IT WOULD NEED TO GO TO PRIVATE ARBITRATION, THIS SEPARATE PROCESS CONSISTS OF THREE PIECES, DEACTIVATION RIGHTS, A DEACTIVATION APPEALS PANEL, AND A DRIVER RESOLUTIONS CENTER. SO, FOR THE DEACTIVATION RIGHTS, IT ESTABLISHES FOR RIGHTS, DRIVERS CAN NOT BE SUBJECTED TO WHAT IS CALLED AN UNWARRANTED DEACTIVATION. THE TMC’S ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICES TO THE DRIVERS, BEFORE THE DEACTIVATION, AND UPON DEACTIVATION. DRIVERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHALLENGE ALL PERMANENT, AND TEMPORARY DEACTIVATION’S. SUBJECT TO SOME ELIGIBILITY STANDARDS WE CAN DISCUSS LATER. AND THERE IS A RIGHT TO REPRESENTATION AT ANY DEACTIVATION CHALLENGE. AND THAT APPLIES TO BOTH A PRIVATE ARBITRATION, AND ONE THAT WOULD HAPPEN VIA THE DRIVER DEACTIVATION APPEALS PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS. DRIVERS SUBJECT TO SOME DIFFERENT CRITERIA WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE FREE REPRESENTATION FROM THE DRIVER RESOLUTIONS CENTER. FOR THEIR DEACTIVATION CHALLENGES. THE LEGISLATION ESTABLISHES A DEACTIVATION APPEALS PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS, WHICH WOULD BE VOLUNTARY FOR THE TNC’S, AND TNC DRIVERS, WHICH MEANS THAT THE TNC AND TNC DRIVERS BY MUTUAL AGREEMENT COULD USE THIS PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS, INSTEAD OF A PRIVATE ARBITRATION. IT WOULDN’T BE REQUIRED, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY BOTH AGREED TO AS A DIFFERENT PATH. THE PANEL ARBITRATION WOULD RESULT IN A DECISION THAT IS FINAL, AND BINDING. THAT OFFERS LEGAL, AND EQUITABLE RELIEF TO THE DRIVER, THAT MEANS THAT A DRIVER COULD BE AWARDED DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OWED, DOUBLE DAMAGES, AND ALSO COULD HAVE SOMETHIG LIKE REINSTATEMENT BE ORDERED. THE PROCESS HAPPENS ALONG A PRESCRIBED TIMELINE, AND THAT COULD BE AS LITTLE AS 32 DAYS, OR UP TO 107 DAYS. IN CONTRAST TO PRIVATE ARBITRATION, THAT IS A MUCH QUICKER PROCESS, A PRIVATE ARBITRATION, UNDER THE AMERICAN ARBITRATION ACID ASSOCIATION RULES, WHICH IS WHAT BOTH GOOBER AND LEFTY USE CURRENTLY, IT WOULD TAKE 75 DAYS JUST TO GET TO A POINT WHERE A HEARING DATE WOULD BE SCHEDULED. THE COST FOR THIS PROCESS WOULD BE NOTHING TO THE DRIVER. IN THE TNC, THE DRIVER RESOLUTIONS CENTER WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT LATER, WILL EACH PAY HALF OF THE COST OF A MUTUAL ARBITRATOR. THE TNC WOULD PAY FULL COST, IF THE DRIVER IS NOT REPRESENTED BY THE DRIVER RESOLUTIONS CENTER. AND PART OF THIS IDEA FOR THE PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS IS THAT IT WOULD CONSIST OF A MUTUAL ARBITRATOR, AND ON THE PANEL THERE WOULD ALSO BE WHAT IS CALLED A PANEL PARTISAN MEMBER. EACH OF THESE MEMBERS WOULD BE REPRESENTING THE INTEREST OF THE TNC, OR THE DRIVER, AND THE CITY WOULD NOT PAY FOR THE COST OF THESE PARTISAN PANEL MEMBERS. LAST, THE DRIVER RESOLUTIONS CENTER IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT THE CITY WOULD CONTRACT WITH, IT WOULD BE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT THE CITY WOULD CONTRACT WITH, FOR OUTREACH, CONSULTATION, AND REPRESENTATION OF DRIVERS. THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT IT BE NONPROFIT, AND AFFILIATED WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH WORKERS AND GRIEVANCES, AND IS NOT FUNDED, OR EXCESSIVELY CONTROLLED BY A TNC. SO, NEXT, THERE ARE SEVEN ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THE COUNCIL’S CONSIDERATION, AS A POSSIBLE POLICY ISSUES. THE FIRST ONE IS REGARDING RULEMAKING– >>SO SORRY, I– I WOULD RATHER- – I DON’T KNOW IF I FOLLOW YOUR LEAD, BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE OVERALL, I DON’T KNOW IF THEY ARE ADDRESSED IN THE ISSUES. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IS WE ARE HAVING TO BASICALLY HAVE THIS COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON THIS LEGISLATION, DURING BUDGET, AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT A LITTLE BIT. SO I’M SORRY TO POKE AROUND ON THIS STUFF, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT, BECAUSE SOMEONE INSISTED THAT IT BE DONE ON THE FULL BUDGET PROCESS, I CAN’T REMEMBER– >>YOU ARE LOOKING AT ME. I CAN PULL IT UP HERE FOR YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >>SO, IF I UNDERSTAND THE ARBITRATION PROCESS, IT IS VOLUNTARY, SO IF I AM A DRIVER, AND I SAY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO USE AS THE VOLUNTARY ARBITRATION PROCESS, WITH THIS DRIVERS RESOLUTION CENTER, BUT THE TNC SAYS NO, I DISAGREE, THEN THE DRIVER DOESN’T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT RIGHT? BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE VOLUNTARY BY BOTH SIDES, I’M ASSUMING THAT’S THE WAY THE LEGISLATION WORKS? >>YOU ARE CRACKED, THE WAY THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS SET UP IS THAT THE DRIVER STILL COULD HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER TO REPRESENT THEM AT A PRIVATE ARBITRATION. SO, EVEN– SO, ONE OF THE RIGHTS THAT IS ESTABLISHED BY THE LAW WOULD BE THE RIGHT TO REPRESENTATION BY THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, IN EITHER A PRIVATE ARBITRATION, OR THIS PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS. >>OKAY, SO THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER IS MORE THAN JUST A FORUM TO HEAR AND ARBITRATION, THEY ALSO ASSIGN REPRESENTATIVES TO BE THAT PERSON– SHOULD THE DNC NOT CHOOSE TO USE THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER. SO IS THERE ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO MAKING THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER MANDATORY? THAT GOOBER, OR LIFT, OR ANY TNC THEY JUST– THIS IS THE ONLY FORM WITH WHICH TO GO? >>WELL, GIVEN THAT THE DRIVERS HAVE ENTERED INTO A TERMS OF SERVICE WITH THESE TNC’S SAYING THAT THEY AGREE TO PRIVATE ARBITRATION, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS TO BE A VOLUNTARY PROCESS, BECAUSE THE DRIVERS HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO PURSUE PRIVATE ARBITRATION WHEN THEY BECOME A DRIVER. >>SO WE DON’T HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO SUPERSEDE THAT CONTRACT ON ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN THE DRIVER AND THE TNC, SO THAT’S– CAN’T WE ESTABLISH A LEGAL FRAMEWORK BY WHICH TNC OPERATE? THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING? CAN’T WE SAY ALL DRIVER DISPUTES ARE HANDLED IN THIS DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER? ISN’T THAT A POSSIBILITY? >>WELL, THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS FAVORS MANDATORY ARBITRATION AGREEMENT. THEY– THERE WAS AN EPIC SYSTEM SUPREME COURT CASE, THAT JUST ABOLISHED RESPECT FOR MANDATORY ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS, THAT SAYS– >>WE ARE MAKING IT MANDATORY. NO, WE ARE MAKING IT MANDATORY. WE ARE NOT AT ALL DEMANDING FROM THE SUPREME COURT’S DECISION, WE ARE SAYING IT’S MANDATORY, JUST A FORM AS A DRIVERS RESOLUTION CENTER. ú>>SO WHAT THE SUPREME COURT I SAYING IS THAT THE PRIVATE EMPLOYERS HAVE A RIGHT TO MAKE IT MANDATORY, AND IF A WORKER, OR CONSUMER AGREES TO THAT, THERE IS NO DEVIATION FROM IT. >>I AM NOT GETTING IT. SO, IN THAT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE– ARE YOU SAYING THAT– AND I DON’T, I’M NOT– PERHAPS I’M NOT AS INFORMED AS YOU ARE. SO, WE CAN’T DICTATE THE FORM? WE ARE NOT DEVIATING FROM MANDATORY ARBITRATION, WE ARE JUST DICTATING THE FORUM WHICH IS OUR FORUM. >>SO UNDER THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT THAT DRIVERS SIDE, WHEN THEY ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH GOOBER AND LEFT, THEY ARE AGREEING TO THE EVERYTHING OF AN ARBITRATION. THEY ARE AGREEING TO THE FORUM, AND THE PROCESS THAT IS LAID OUT BY THE AMERICAN ARBITRATION ASSOCIATION RULES, AND WHAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID IS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED. AND SO WHAT THIS LAW DOES IS SET UP A SEPARATE PROCESS. THAT WOULD BE QUICKER FOR THE DRIVERS AND LESS EXPENSIVE FOR THE DRIVERS, BECAUSE IT WOULDN’T BE PAYING ANYTHING AND ALSO IT WOULDN’T BE PAYING ANYTHING FOR THE TMC’S A MUTUAL ARBITRATOR THAT WOULD BE VETTED AND CONTRACTED BY THE CITY. SO IT HAS GOT SOME COMPONENTS IN PLACE THAT WOULD PROTECT THE DRIVER AND PROVIDE A FAIR PROCESS, AND WOULD APPARENTLY SEEM TO BENEFIT ALL PARTIES. >>AND SO WHERE’S THE $3.5 MILLION? WHERE IS THAT MONEY? WHAT IS THE BASIS FOR THAT AMOUNT, THAT SEEMS HIGH FOR A CENTER FOR ONE YEAR. >>SO THIS RESOLUTION THAT THE MAYOR PROPOSED HAS UP TO $3.5 MILLION TO FUND THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER AND ANY OF THE WORK THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO ADMINISTER THESE WORKER RIGHTS, SO THAT MIGHT INCLUDE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS, WHEN THE MINIMUM– IF THE MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD IS PASSED BY COUNSEL, IF FAS NEEDS ANY DATABASE, OR OTHER KIND OF STAFFING NEEDS FOR THIS. THE– WE HAVE ASKED, CENTRAL STAFF HAS ASKED THE EXECUTIVE FOR MORE INFORMATION TO ITEMIZED COST, THAT CONSTITUTE THE UP TO $3.5 MILLION, THE EXECUTIVE DOESN’T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THIS TIME. THE SENSE IS THAT THERE IS A RECOGNITION THAT IT COULD COST A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND SO, THERE IS $3.5 MILLION THAT IS IDENTIFIED FOR THAT, THE EXECUTIVE DOESN’T HAVE THE NUMBER OF THE ACTIVATIONS THAT HAPPEN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THERE IS ANECDOTAL DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENS A LOT, AND CURRENTLY NEW YORK CITY HAS A WAY TO STUDY THE NUMBER OF THE ACTIVATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE. I’M NOT SURE WHEN THAT STUDY WILL BE RELEASED, BUT THAT WILL BE HELPFUL INFORMATION TO HELP GUIDE THE FORMATION AND THE SIZE, AND THE BREATH OF THE CENTER. >>THANK YOU. >>COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, AND COUNCILMEMBER Y >>I AM NOT QUITE SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWER WE ARE GETTING ON ARBITRATION. I’M COMING IN FOR CLEANUP. SO ON ARBITRATION, I GUESS KARINA, WHAT WE ARE NOT– WHAT I HAVEN’T HEARD CLEARLY FROM YOU IS A DIRECT ANSWER TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT HARRELL’S OFFICE AND QUESTION AND MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, RATHER THAN OPEN SESSION, AND IF THAT IS THE CASE YOU SHOULD JUST TELL US SO THAT WE CAN STOP– >>PEPPER YOU WITH QUESTIONS. >>TORTURING OURSELVES, AND YOU, AND PEOPLE WATCHING ON THIS QUESTION. SO, IN THIS SUPREME COURT CASE THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THAT CASE, BY THE WAY? >>EPIC. >>EPIC? DID YOU SAY EPIC? >>EPIC I THINK. >>SO IN THE EPIC CASE DOES IT SAY THAT THE CONTRACT, WHEN TWO PEOPLE ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT, AND IT HAS AN ARBITRATION CLAUSE, IF THAT ARBITRATION CLAUSE ALSO INDICATES THE VENUE, AND THE FORUM OF WHERE THE ARBITRATION NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE, THEN OUR LAW CANNOT SUPERSEDE THAT CHOSEN FORUM, THAT AGREED-UPON FORM IN THE CONTRACT? IS THAT WHAT– IS THAT WHAT THE CASE IS THAT WHAT YOUR TURN TO TELL US? SO FOR, IF WE DO ARBITRATION– TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT HARRELL’S POINT, WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT ARBITRATION OCCURS, WE JUST WANT TO MANDATE WHERE THAT ARBITRATION HAPPENS. SO, NOT AAA, OR, YOU KNOW, JAMS, OR PICKING ARBITRATOR. IN THE CITY. WE WANTED TO HAPPEN AT THE DISPUTE RESOLUTION CENTER. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT IS PROHIBITED BY THE EPIC SUPREME COURT CASE? >>I THINK THIS CONVERSATION IS BEST LEFT TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >>ALL RIGHT. >>I KNOW THAT YOU ARE SOMEWHAT SATISFIED, BUT WE WILL GET OUR ATTORNEYS TO COME IN. >>I WILL– WHAT I WILL POSIT IS THAT, SO WHAT THE SUPREME COURT DID IS SIGNAL THE PRECEDENTS OF THE FEDERAL ARBITRATION ACT, AND– IN ALLOWING EMPLOYERS TO REQUIRE CERTAIN THINGS, UNDER THEIR MANDATORY ARBITRATION AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO BE FOLLOWED, AND WANTED TO SIGNAL THAT THERE SHOULDN’T BE INTERFERENCE WITH THAT. I THINK THE REST CAN BE LEFT FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, I WILL ADD THAT CALIFORNIA DID PASS, LAST WEEK, AN INTERESTING LAW THAT PROHIBITS EMPLOYERS FROM PROMISING EMPLOYMENT OF NEW EMPLOYEES ON SIGNING MANDATORY ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS, SO RESPECTING THE EXISTING MANDATORY ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS, BUT NOT CONDITIONING NEW EMPLOYMENT ON SIGNING THOSE. >>SO JUST– I SHOULDN’T– SO SORT OF CLARIFYING SOMETHING, SO THE RULES OF DEACTIVATION, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU VERY– CITED VERY WELL, SOME OF THE COMMON PROBLEMS IN THE DEACTIVATION, SUCH AS A TMC DRIVER DEACTIVATING, BECAUSE OF AN ACCIDENT, IT WASN’T THE DRIVERS FAULT. FOR EXAMPLE. AND WE HEARD A STORY AT A PRESS CONFERENCE, THAT WAS JUST DEVASTATING FROM A WOMAN THAT IT WASN’T EVEN HER FAULT, AND SHE WAS DEACTIVATED AND IT WAS HER SOLE SOURCE OF INCOME. THIS FORUM, WE STILL CAN’T REALLY CHANGE THE RULES BY WHICH THE TNC’S ARE DEACTIVATING. SEE, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A FORUM THAT CAN SORT OF HAVE A BASELINE NOTION OF WHAT KINDS OF THINGS SHOULD BE LEGITIMATE GROUNDS FOR DEACTIVATION OR NOT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE SPENDING UP TO 3 1/2 MILLION I SHOULD SAY, FOR NOW, THE FORUM, WHICH DOESN’T HAVE TO BE USED AND THE ARBITRATION, SORT OF A NO-BRAINER, IF THE RULES ARE SUCH THAT IF THE RULES ARE SORT OF UNFAIR, THAT YOU ARE JUST GOING TO THIS FORUM AND THE RULES ARE STILL UNFAIR, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO INVESTIGATE PENDING, TO SUSPEND YOU, PENDING THE INVESTIGATION OF ACCIDENT. SO THE RULES CAN SAY THAT, WE DON’T KNOW WHOSE FAULT IT IS, UNTIL THEN, YOU ARE DEACTIVATED. SO, I DON’T KNOW HOW WE INFLUENCE THE RULES OF DEACTIVATION, NOT JUST THE FORUM, AND THAT IS WHY I WAS HOPING TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED REPOSITORY OF INFORMATION, THAT WE CAN SORT OF INFLUENCE AND CONTROL, SUCH THAT THEY HAVE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ARE SETTING UP THIS DEACTIVATION CENTER WHICH IS JUST GOING TO BE ONE OF MANY FORUMS, AND THE UNFAIRNESS TO THE DRIVER CONTINUES COME BECAUSE THE RULES ARE– >>OKAY, SO I THINK I A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. FOR THE PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS, THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE AT THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, THE RULES THAT THAT ARBITRATION WOULD OPERATE UNDER WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS, SO THOSE RULES THAT CONTROL THE FORM OF THE PROCEDURE IN THE EVIDENTIARY PROCEEDINGS, AND THE BURDEN OF PROOF, ALL OF THAT WOULD BE YET TO BE ISSUED, IT WOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS, THEY MAY ADOPT PARTS OF THE AAA RULES, AND THE JAMS RULES, THEY MAY COME UP WITH OTHER RULES THAT THEY BELIEVE WOULD RESULT IN A MORE FAIR PROCESS, BUT IF THE TNC, AND THE TNC DRIVER CHOSE THIS ALTERNATIVE PATH, THE PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS, IT COULD LOOK DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENS IN PRIVATE ARBITRATION. TO YOUR POINT, THERE IS NOTHING, RIGHT NOW, THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD COMPEL THE TNC’S TO GO TOWARDS THAT PATH, BUT THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS OF THE PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS THAT MIGHT BE APPEALING. SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE A FASTER PROCESS, THE DECREASED COST, THE EXECUTIVE ESTIMATES THAT A– THAT ON ARBITRATION UNDER THIS PROCESS COULD BE DONE LIKE, SAY 3 TO 5 IN A DAY AT THE RESOLUTION CENTER, WHEREAS A PRIVATE ARBITRATION MIGHT TAKE ONE DAY, OR TWO DAYS. I’M SEEING– SEEING, IS THAT I NOT YES? >>NO, YEAH, IT IS JUST A LOT LONGER TO GO THROUGH A PRIVATE ARBITRATION PROCESS THAN IT IS TO GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. >>YEAH, AND SO THAT IS WHAT THE EXECUTIVE IS POSITING IS A BENEFIT OF GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN QUICKER, AND BECAUSE THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER WOULD BE FOCUSING ON ONE SUBJECT MATTER, DEACTIVATION’S, THERE WOULD BE MORE OF A FAMILIARITY WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER. >>I’M SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER O’BRIEN IS IN THE QUEUE, BUT IF WE COULD JUST FINISH UP THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING, I GUESS, REALLY THE ULTIMATE POLICY úQUESTION AROUND THE DEACTIVATION CENTER IN MY MIND IS, ARE WE– HAS THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED, CREATED ENOUGH INCENTIVES TO ENTICE THE TNC’S TO NOT SIMPLY CATEGORICALLY ALWAYS DECLINE PARTICIPATING IN THE DEACTIVATION RIGHTS ORDINANCE RIGHT? BECAUSE EVEN WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE– EVEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THIS IS A FASTER PROCESS I SEE THAT MORE AS A DRIVER BENEFIT AND INCENTIVE THEN TO THE TNC RIGHT? IF SOMEBODY AT THE TNC WANTS TO PREVENT THE DRIVER FROM CONTESTING THE DEACTIVATION FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY ARE GOING TO OPT FOR THE MORE COMPLEX, BELABORED PROCESS OF ARBITRATION TO — TO AAA, OR WHATEVER FORUM IT IS THAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO IN THE CONTRACT. SO I THINK THAT IS THE AREA THAT I AM INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT MORE CLOSELY AND SPECIFICALLY ARE, WHAT ARE THE INCENTIVES THAT ENCOURAGE MUTUAL AGREEMENT TO UTILIZATION OF THE DEACTIVATION RIGHTS ORDINANCE, AND I’M NOT QUITE CONVINCED THAT THE POT HAS BEEN SWEETENED ENOUGH IS THAT RIGHT? THAT THE POT HAS BEEN SWEETENED ENOUGH TO ELICIT THAT LEVEL OF COMPLIANCE AND MAYBE IT IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE DEACTIVATION RIGHTS ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT OF GOOD FAITH PARTICIPATION, I DON’T THINK I HAVE SEEN THAT LANGUAGE USED, BUT PERHAPS I MISSED IT IN– AND CORRECT ME IF I HAVE, YOU LOVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS. MOST OF OUR RESOLUTION PROCESSES AT THE CITY DO IMPOSE SOME LEVEL OF úGOOD FAITH AND UNDERSTANDING, AND SOME SORT OF REPERCUSSION IF GOOD FAITH– IF SOMEBODY DETERMINES THAT GOOD FAITH HAS NOT ACTUALLY BEEN PRESENT IN SORT OF THE, THE ENGAGEMENT OF MAKING THIS DECISION, SO I THINK THOSE ARE AREAS I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING. >>YEAH, I MEAN, I DID NOT NOTICE THE WORDS GOOD FAITH, AND YOU– IT IS AT THE HEART OF THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS WILL BE A SUCCESSFUL DIFFERENT PATH, IF– WHETHER OR NOT TNC’S WILL ACTUALLY USE IT, SO YES, YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED I THINK, THE HEART OF THE ISSUE. AND IT IS ADDRESSED AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE [ SILENCE ] >>ON DEACTIVATION. IS THAT SOMETHING, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT IS PREDICTED AND THEY DON’T HAVE TO GIVE IT TO US? >>I AM NOT AWARE OF PROTECTIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT COLLECTING THAT DATA. >>OKAY, COLLEAGUES, IF IT IF THAT IS USEFUL DATA, SO MUCH THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET, I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN EITHER REQUIRE IT, OR, MAYBE PENALIZE, IF THEY DON’T SUPPLY THE DATA? GIVE THEM AN OPTION THAT THERE MIGHT BE A TAX ON THE LICENSE, OR WHATEVER TO DO THE BUSINESS IF THEY DON’T FIND THE DATA, IF THEY PROVIDE THE DATA THAT IS HELPFUL. I MEAN, THEY CLEARLY HAVE IT. AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT SHARING IT IS, I DON’T SEE WHAT BUSINESS PURPOSE THAT SERVES ON THEIR END. THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE HELPFUL FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE TO KNOW. >>ALL RIGHT, OKAY. PLEASE CONTINUE. >>THE FIRST ISSUE IS IN REGARDS TO RULEMAKING, THE LEGISLATION IDENTIFIES AT LEAST EIGHT ISSUES FOR RULEMAKING. THE MEMO IDENTIFIES FIVE OF THEM. AND, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DIRECTOR WOULD BE DEFINING WHAT AN UNWARRANTED DEACTIVATION IS, THE RULES WOULD CLARIFY THE EVERY ELIGIBILITY TO CHALLENGE DEACTIVATION’S PROCEDURES, ETC. SO WHEN HE RULEMAKING PROCESS IS GOING TO ENTAIL NOTICE A PERIOD OF PUBLIC COMMENT, TO ENSURE THAT THE DIRECTOR’S DECISION IS NOT ARBITRARY, SETTING PARAMETERS ON THE RULEMAKING PROCESS COULD MAKE IT EVEN MORE OR LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO CHALLENGES IN ARBITRARY DECISION BY THE DIRECTOR. PARAMETERS COULD ALSO SIGNAL THE COUNCILS INTENT ON WHAT IS IMPORTANT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RULES, THE RULEMAKING PROCESS. THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF COUNSEL SETTING PARAMETERS, AND WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE SERVICES FUND. SOME THAT ARE SUGGESTED IN THE MEMO, INCLUDE PRIORITIZING A PROCESS THAT REQUIRES TRANSPARENCY, INCLUSION AND LANGUAGE ACCESS FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS. CONSIDERATION OF JUST CAUSE STANDARDS. EVIDENCE-BASED CRITERIA, FAIR TREATMENT, TRANSPARENCY, CONSISTENCY AND OTHER PRINCIPLES. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR ONE PARTICULAR RULEMAKING AREA, OR FOR MORE. >>SO, SO I LIKE THE ISSUE RAISED, SO THIS SORT OF SUGGESTS THAT THE DIRECTOR HAS AUTHORITY, LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DO A LOT OF THIS WORK WHICH SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD HAVE HAD AUTHORITY TO DEFINE THE FORUM THOUGH, I GUESS I JUST GO BACK TO THAT ISSUE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE SUGGESTING THEY CAN DEFINE THE ACTION TO DEACTIVATION– THE BASIS FOR DEACTIVATION, RIGHT? AND THE PREHEARING PROCEDURES. SO, WE ARE STILL SORT OF DELVING INTO THE CONTRACT THAT THE DRIVER SIGNED WITH THE TNC A LITTLE BIT, IT SOUNDS TO ME. AND THAT CONTRACTOR IS JUST SILENT ON THESE ISSUES. >>SO, TO MAKE SURE I AM UNDERSTANDING, WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE FORUM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FORUM FOR THE PANEL ARBITRATION? OR THE PANEL FOR THE PRIVATE ARBITRATION? >>SO I AM JUST READING SORT OF THE SUGGESTION HERE THAT SAYS THE DEFINITION– THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION WOULD GIVE THE DIRECTOR THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE RULES ON THE DEFINITION OF UNWARRANTED DEACTIVATION, IS THAT JUST FOR THE DRIVER RESOURCE CENTER? >>SO THE DEFINITION OF OF WHAT COUNTED CONSTITUTES AN UNWARRANTED DEACTIVATION WOULD APPLY TO A PRIVATE ARBITRATION, AND TO THIS PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS. SO, YOU ARE CORRECT, IT WOULD CREATE A LEGAL RIGHT THAT COULD BE HANDLED IN THE PRIVATE ARBITRATION, OR THE PANEL ARBITRATION. >>SO I THINK, JUST TO FOLLOW YOUR RATIONALE, IF THE DIRECTOR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT KIND OF RULE, I DON’T SEE WHY THE DIRECTOR CAN MAKE A RULE AS TO WHERE THEIR ARBITRATIONS SHOULD GO. WHAT? ANYWAY, I MEAN WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT THE DIRECTOR HAS MORE OR LESS THE AUTHORITY TO DO ALL OF THIS STUFF, TO DEFINE WHAT DEACTIVATION IS. ISN’T THAT ALREADY IN THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE DRIVER AND THE TNC COMPANY? >>I CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU AND LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. >>I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT ALL OF THAT WOULD BE IN THEIR CONTRACT BETWEEN THE DRIVER AND THE TNC COMPANY. ANYWAY, THESE ARE GOOD ISSUES TO SPOT. IF THE DIRECTOR HAS THAT AUTHORITY. APPARENTLY THEY DO. >>ALL RIGHT COUNSEL– ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER HARRELL, AND COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ. >>I JUST WANT TO SIGNAL A GENERAL REACTION I HAVE TWO THE BREATH OF POLICY ISSUES THAT WE ARE DELEGATING TO THE DIRECTOR, TO ADDRESS IN RULEMAKING, I– I MAY BE HAVING THIS VISCERAL RESPONSE HIM– AND IT MAY NOT BE AN INAPPROPRIATE RESPONSE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE DELEGATING A LOT OF POLICY CHOICES IN THIS RULEMAKING PROCESS, AS OPPOSED TO MY FAMILIARITY WITH RULEMAKING. IS GENERALLY ABOUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT A POLICY THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, BY THE COUNCIL. SO I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING MORE, LIKE DETAILED THAN THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MORE CAREFUL LOOK AT THESE ISSUES. >>I THINK THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT. ALL RIGHT, PLEASE PROCEED. >>OKAY ON THAT SAME NOTE– >>I APOLOGIZE, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ HAD ANOTHER COMMENT. >>I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE THE SAME EXACT COMMENT. >>ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >>MIND MELD HAPPENING OVER HERE. >>UNDER THE ORDINANCE HAPPENING THERE, IT WOULD ESTABLISH A RIGHT FOR A TNC DRIVER TO ELECT A REPRESENTATIVE , INCLUDING AN ADVOCATE FROM THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, TO REPRESENT THEM DURING ANY DEACTIVATION CHALLENGE, AND WHETHER THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER WOULD AGREE TO REPRESENT THAT DRIVER, IS SUBJECT TO THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTERS DISCRETION. WHICH APPEARS TO BE A FAIR AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION, THERE ARE NO CRITERIA LISTED IN THE LEGISLATION, AS TO WHY THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER WOULD AGREE, OR DISAGREE TO REPRESENT A DRIVER, SO THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A POSSIBLE AREA FOR RULEMAKING. IT COULD ALSO BE IDENTIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. AND, IF IT IS IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA FOR RULEMAKING, THEN AGAIN, IT COULD BE CONTEMPLATION OF SETTING THE PARAMETERS TO GUIDE THAT RULEMAKING PROCESS. >>OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >>ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ISSUE IS REGARDING NOTICE OF IMPENDING DEACTIVATION, THE LEGISLATION WOULD REQUIRE TNC’S TO PROVIDE TWO KINDS OF NOTICE TO DRIVERS. REGARDING A DEACTIVATION. ONE OF THEM WOULD BE NOTICE OF AN IMPENDING DEACTIVATION. THAT IS BEFORE IT HAPPENS, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT FOR TWO DAYS BEFORE THEY ACTIVATION, AND THEN NOTICE BE UPON DEACTIVATION. THE LATTER NOTICE, UPON DEACTIVATION IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INFORMATION IN IT, WRITTEN STATEMENT OF THE REASONS, THE EFFECTIVE DATE, AND THE RIGHT TO CHALLENGE THE DEACTIVATION. THAT CONTENT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE NOTICE OF IMPENDING DEACTIVATION, SO THE RESULT WOULD BE THAT DRIVERS WOULD RECEIVE A NOTICE OF IMPENDING DEACTIVATION, WITH NOTHING IN IT, OTHER THAN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 14 DAYS. SO POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION IS ADDING THAT SAME BODY OF LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT UPON DEACTIVATION NOTICE TO THE IMPENDING DEACTIVATION NOTICE, SO THAT THE DRIVER CAN BEGIN PREPARING IMMEDIATELY FOR WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS.>>ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER O’BRIEN HAS A QUESTION. >>THAT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY LOGICAL OPTION, THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT. I’M CURIOUS, DO YOU THINK THAT IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT THERE? ARE SOME TECHNICAL REASONS WHY THEY FELT THAT WOULD WORK? >>I ASKED THE EXECUTIVE IF THERE WOULD BE ANY HARM TO ADDING THAT INFORMATION. ONLY THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, BUT THE EXECUTIVE HAS INDICATED THAT THEY DON’T FORECAST ANY HARM IN ADDING THAT INFORMATION TO THE NOTICE OF THEM PENDING DEACTIVATION. >>SIGN ME UP AS A SUPPORTER OF THAT OPTION THEN. >>GOOD, PLEASE CONTINUE. >>NEXT ISSUE IS IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE LEGISLATION CALLS A PARTISAN PANEL MEMBER. AGAIN, THE PANEL ARBITRATION PROCESS CONSISTS OF A MUTUAL ARBITRATOR THAT IS CONTRACTED BY THE CITY. AND THAT IS VETTED AND CONTRACTED BY THE CITY, AND THEN AN EQUAL NUMBER OF WHAT IS CALLED A PARTISAN PANEL MEMBER, THESE PANEL MEMBERS WOULD REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF THE TNC, AND THE TNC DRIVER , THE DECISION OF THE PANEL WOULD BE BY MAJORITY VOTE. THE CITY WOULDN’T PAY FOR THESE PARTISAN PANEL MEMBERS, THIS TERM IS NOT DEFINED IN THE LEGISLATION, AND IT COULD BE A BIT CONFUSING, AS TO WHAT THAT PARTISAN PANEL PANEL MEMBERS ROLE IS. ARE THEY AN ADVOCATE? ARE THEY ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL ARBITRATOR? IT IS UNCLEAR FROM THE CURRENT LANGUAGE. THERE IS ONE SENTENCE THAT SAYS THE PANEL DECISION IN ANY INDICATION WOULD BE BY AN ARBITRATOR HOLDING ONE VOTE, INSTEAD OF REFERRING TO THE PANEL NUMBER, SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT COULD BE CLEARED UP WITH AN AMENDMENT, THE PROPOSAL COULD BE CHANGED TO DEFINE WHAT A PARTISAN PANEL MEMBER IS, THAT COULD BE LEFT AS YET ANOTHER AREA FOR RULEMAKING, WITH PARAMETERS OR SIMPLY THE LAW COULD BE AMENDED TO REPLACE THE WORD ARBITRATOR, WITH PANEL MEMBER. AND IN CHECKING WITH THE EXECUTIVE, THERE WAS NO EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT CHANGING THAT LANGUAGE FROM ARBITRATOR TO PART PANEL MEMBER . >>ALL RIGHT, QUESTION. PLEASE. >>SO IT DOESN’T ACTUALLY EVEN DEFINE THE NUMBER OF PARTISAN PANEL MEMBERS, JUST AS THEY NEED TO BE EQUAL? >>CORRECT. AND SO THAT IS ANOTHER AREA SUBJECT TO RULES. >>OKAY. >>I LIKE IT THAT YOU KEEP WALKING– LOOKING DOWN HERE TO SEE WHO IS GOING TO JUMP ON THE QUESTION ABOUT RULEMAKING. >>YOU ARE FOLLOWING MY EYES. >>YEAH, NO I’M– I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, EACH ONE THERE IS A MUTUAL ARBITRATOR BETWEEN THE MUTUAL ARBITRATOR, DOES IT TALK ABOUT HOW THAT ARBITRATOR IS SELECTED? >>SO, THE CITY WOULD CONTRACT WITH A LIST OF ARBITRATORS, TO PERFORM THIS WORK. SO THE CITY WOULD DO THE WORK OF VETTING WHO THE CITY BELIEVES IS A NEUTRAL ARBITRATOR, AND ONE THAT COULD FAIRLY ARBITRATE THESE CASES. AND THEN COME THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE THAT LIST TO THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, AND THE TNC’S , IN THE EVENT, SO THAT THE TNC’S — DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER WOULD DECIDE WHAT ARBITRATOR THEY WANTED FROM THAT LIST, AND MOVE FORWARD AND PAY FOR HALF OF IT. >>OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THE FINDING THAT PARTISAN PANEL MEMBER, AND TRIED TO ENVISION HOW, HOW– AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ENVISIONED IN THIS LEGISLATION. I GET THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY AN ADVOCATE FOR EACH SIDE, WITH THE ARBITRATOR. AND THEN I GUESS, THE ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT IF BOTH ADVOCATES DISAGREED WITH THE ARBITRATOR, THEY COULD OVERRIDE THE ARBITRATOR, BUT REALLY, THE ARBITRATOR IS JUST MAKING A DECISION AND THERE’S ADVOCATES ON BOTH SIDES PRESENT. >>CORRECT. THE MUTUAL ARBITRATOR WOULD SEEM TO BE ABLE TO CARRY THE DECISION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. THE EXECUTIVE HAS STATED THAT THEY ENVISION THESE PARTISAN PANEL MEMBERS, NOT NECESSARILY TO BE ATTORNEYS, BUT IT WOULD BE A– A STAFF MEMBER OF THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, AN EMPLOYEE OF THE TMC. AGAIN, THE EXECUTIVE THINKS THIS IS ALL TO LOWER-COST, BECAUSE IT IS NOT AN ATTORNEY NECESSARILY, ALTHOUGH IT COULD BE AN ATTORNEY, WHO IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE TNC. >>I THINK SOME CLARITY ON THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL, SO I LIKE THE VARIETY OF OPTIONS YOU HAVE THERE. IT GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS IS THREE EQUAL PEOPLE OR– SEVEN EQUAL PEOPLE OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT IF IT IS– SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE CLEARER TO JUST BE CALLING IT A, THERE IS AN ARBITRATOR AND ADVOCATE ON EACH THAT, JUST TO BE CLEAR OF WHAT IS GOING ON. BUT I DON’T KNOW IF THERE’S LEGAL REASONS WHY WE USE THESE TERMS, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER YOU KNOW, I DON’T UNDERSTAND ARBITRATION LAWS AS WELL AS MY LAWYER COLLEAGUES TO MY RIGHT AND LEFT. >>THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT? >>THE ONE THING I WILL ADD TO THAT IS THAT I AM NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I HAVE READ IN SOME OF THE RESEARCH ABOUT THE IMPACT OF MANDATORY ARBITRATION THAT LABOR ARBITRATION HAS– CAN, IN THE CONTEXT OF A– OF UNIONS, AND MANAGEMENT ARBITRATIONS, A PANEL PROCESS HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND, PERHAPS THIS IS A WAY OF TRYING TO REPLICATE THAT IN A DIFFERENT FORM. >>CAN I–? I APPRECIATE THE REFERENCE TO LABOR ARBITRATION, I THINK IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY APPLES TO APPLES, SO I DON’T WANT TO STEP INTO THE INADVERTENTLY STEP INTO AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON IN THAT REGARD. BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY MUCH MORE ABOUT CONTRACT BASED ARBITRATION, WHICH IS, IN MY MIND, FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT, IN LARGE PART BECAUSE IT SKEWS IN FAVOR OF WHOMEVER THE CORPORATION IS, AS OPPOSED TO LABOR ARBITRATION, WHICH TENDS TO BE A FAIRER PROCESS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE WORKER. BUT I THINK IF THERE ARE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM HOW LABOR ARBITRATION IS STRUCTURED, THEN PERHAPS THAT WOULD– THAT COULD BE A GOOD MODEL FOR US TO CONSIDER, AS WE ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT BY COUNCILMEMBER O’BRIEN, WHICH I SHARE. FRANKLY, I DON’T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE PHRASE PARTISAN PANEL MEMBER. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN ODD PHRASING IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS CONVERSATION. I THINK IT WILL LEAD MOST PEOPLE TO IMMEDIATELY THINK SOMEBODY IS A REPUBLICAN AND SOMEBODY IS A DEMOCRAT, WHICH IS A LITTLE WEIRD IN THIS CONTEXT, BUT I THINK THIS IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, AND CLARIFICATION. AND I AM OF THE GENERAL PRINCIPLE, AT THIS POINT, THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD RELEGATE RULEMAKING. I THINK IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE, BECAUSE I SEE IT AS A FUNDAMENTAL POLICY DECISION, AND A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF THE STRUCTURE, THE OVERALL CONCEPT HERE. >>OKAY. YEAH. THE NEXT ISSUE IS ABOUT THE COST OF ARBITRATION, AND COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ, THIS SPEAKS TO WHAT YOU WERE BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION EARLIER. THE COST OF THE PROPOSED– OF THE PANEL ARBITRATION WOULD BE SHARED EQUALLY BY THE TNC, AND THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, BUT ONLY IF THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER IS REPRESENTING THE TNC DRIER. THE LEGISLATION WOULD REQUIRE THE TNC TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE PANEL ARBITRATION IF THE TNC DRIVER IS NOT REPRESENTED BY THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER. SO, THIS INDICATES LESS INCENTIVE FOR THE TNC TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PANEL ARBITRATION, AND SO THE COUNSEL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER WHETHER MITIGATING THE COST FOR THE PANEL ARBITRATION COULD INCUR MORE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY TNC WHAT ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN IT, OR IF THERE ARE OTHER WAYS AGAIN, TO THINK ABOUT INCENTIVIZING THE TNC’S TO USE THIS PROCESS. úSO, POSSIBLE OPTIONS INCLUDE REQUIRING THE TNC TO PAY FOR HALF OF THE COST OF THE PANEL ARBITRATION, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE TNC DRIVER IS REPRESENTED BY THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER. AGAIN, THIS IS– THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE– HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED AS RULES, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. AS WELL. >>ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN ORDER TO MAKE A BETTER POLICY DECISION HERE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO PUT THIS QUESTION INTO CONTEXT, SO, WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE FEE WILL BE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISPUTE, SORRY. THE DEACTIVATION RESOURCE CENTER OF PROCESS. BUT WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME SENSE OF HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE EXISTING ARBITRATION PROCESS AS INDICATED BY WHATEVER CONTRACT HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN. O I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD GET A COMPARISON, THAT CONTEXTUAL COMPARISON OF HOW MUCH TMC’S ARE PAYING CURRENTLY, FOR ARBITRATION, THAT MIGHT SHINE SOME LIGHT ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS PARTICULAR INCENTIVE, I.E., THE COST OF PARTICIPATING IN THIS ARBITRATION PROCESS, VERSUS THE PRIVATE ARBITRATION PROCESS IS — CREATES A GREATER INCENTIVE OR NOT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >>IT DOES. I CAN LOOK INTO THAT. >>COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAROLD. >>JUST A COMMENT, IT IS GETTING TO THE END, BUT I WAS GOING TO SAY, THIS IS SORT OF A WEIRD PROCESS THAT WE ARE SETTING UP, A LITTLE BIT. I WAS REALLY EXCITED WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, BECAUSE I THOUGHT, HEARING THE HORRORS OF DEACTIVATION, THERE IS A NEUTRAL FORUM, THAT EVERYONE IS REQUIRED TO GO TO, AND THAT IS WHERE THERE IS GOING TO BE JUSTICE. AND, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM, NUMBER ONE, THEY DON’T HAVE TO USE IT. THE TNC’S CAN SAY OH, I’M NOT OPTING FOR THAT. AND THEN, THE DRIVER RESOURCE CENTER HAS PROPOSED, THEY DON’T EVEN HAVE TO REPRESENT THE PERSON. I CHOOSE NOT TO REPRESENT YOU, SO THE DRIVER STILL SEEMS THAT THEY ARE VULNERABLE TO UNFAIRNESS OF A DEACTIVATION. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME. AND THEN, THE ACTIVATION CENTER ITSELF, BECAUSE A PERSON CAN REPRESENT THE PERSON AT THE CENTER, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF WALL UP, I TAKE IT, BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING A COFFEE EVERY DAY WITH A PERSON, ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEONE AT THE CENTER IS NOW RULING AS A NEUTRAL ARBITER, IN A MANNER THEIR COLLEAGUE IS ONE OF THE REPRESENTED– ONE OF THE REPRESENTING PARTIES? THAT IS– YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WALLOP, WHICH SEEMS STRANGE. AND SO THIS MODEL, FOR ME IS BECOMING A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC, I THINK WE CAN FIX IT SOMEHOW, BUT IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE STRANGE. >>OKAY >>SO, JUST TO CLARIFY, I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THOSE CONCERNS AND, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE OF UNDERSTANDING, THE ARBITRATOR WOULD NOT WORK AT THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, THE ARBITRATOR WOULD– >>OH, THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I WAS THINKING THEY WERE AN EMPLOYEE THERE TOO. SO THE ARBITRATOR– ARBITRATOR? >>ARBITER, ARBITRATOR. >>THAT PERSON COMES IN, AND THEY ARE NOT ON EVERYDAY EMPLOYEE. >>CRACKED, SO IT IS A SEPARATE LIST OF PROFESSIONAL ARBITRATORS THAT THE CITY WOULD BUT AND PAY FOR. >>OKAY, THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT. >>THANK YOU, ANYTHING ELSE STILL HERE? >>ALL RIGHT. SO THE FINAL ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED WILL ACTUALLY, IT IS ALMOST THE FINAL ISSUE IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS LEGISLATION WHICH IS JULY 1, 2020. BY THE STATE, OLS HAS A LOT OF WORK TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, SHOULD THIS BE PASSED, THEY WOULD HAVE ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER THEY WOULD’VE COMPLETED RULEMAKING ON THE VAST NUMBER OF AREAS, THEY WOULD BE ESTABLISHING THE DEACTIVATION OF APPEALS PANEL, GIVEN ALL THE WORK NECESSARY FOR LAMENTING THIS LEGISLATION, THE EFFECTIVE DATE COULD BE CHALLENGING. IT MAY NOT ALLOW ENOUGH TIME FOR THE TNC’S TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE RULES, REGARDING WHAT IS AN UNWARRANTED DEACTIVATION, THE LEGISLATION RULES WOULD GO INTO EFFECT AROUND THE SAME TIME, MOST LIKELY. THE EFFECTIVE DATE MIGHT RESULT IN A SITUATION WHERE TNC DRIVERS WOULD HAVE RIGHTS, BUT SCANT MEANS FOR ACCESSING THE BENEFITS OR PROTECTION OF THOSE RIGHTS, IF THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO A PANEL ARBITRATION THAT ISN’T FULLY PUT INTO PLACE YET. IF THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO REPRESENTATION BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER, BUT THERE IS NO DRIVER RESOLUTION CENTER. YET, SO IT CERTAINLY COULD RESULT IN A DISCONNECT. SO THE COUNSEL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER DELAYING THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE LEGISLATION TO ALLOW MORE TIME FOR IMPLEMENTATION. >>IS THAT LAST ONE? >>THAT IS THE LAST ONE. >>AND I JUST HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? >>SO I APPRECIATE THE SIGNAL THAT THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS AMBITIOUS, SHALL WE SAY. I’M NOT SURE THAT I’M PREPARED TO SUGGEST, OR SUPPORT AN AMENDMENT TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE, BUT I WONDER IF THERE ARE OTHER TOOLS AVAILABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE A GREATER DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE IN BEING ABLE TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS TOWARDS STATED MILESTONES, THAT WOULD GIVE US ALL A HIGHER LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE ON TRACK TO BE READY FOR IMPLEMENTATION ON JULY 1st OF 2020. >>OKAY. AND SO, I CAN PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO WHAT THOSE MILESTONES MIGHT BE. >>YEAH, MILESTONES, AND SORT OF MECHANISMS BY WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL CAN MONITOR ACHIEVEMENT, OR NON-ACHIEVEMENT OF THOSE, THOSE MILESTONES. A BIT OF A DASHBOARD PERHAPS IF YOU WILL? >>A GATES TO KEEP GOING IF YOU DON’T GET THROUGH THAT GATE. >>RIGHT, SO AGAIN, I THINK IT’S– I UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS AMBITIOUS, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT IT IS AN AMBITIOUS EFFECTIVE DATE, BUT I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN’T IN A SITUATION ON– IN– MAY OF 2020, OR JUNE OF 2020 THAT THIS IS NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME, I THINK THE SOONER THE COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT, OR APPRECIATE THAT, AND TAKE ACTION, AND COLLABORATION WITH THE EXECUTIVE AND STAKEHOLDERS, THE BETTER OFF WE WILL ALL BE. >>THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES. >>YES. >>ON THE LAST PAGE. >>TECHNICAL ISSUES. TWO OF THEM, IN THE RECITALS FOR THIS LEGISLATION, IT STATES, IN 2018, THE TWO LARGEST TNC’S ACCOUNTED FOR 4 MILLION TRIPS OF THE CITY, IN KING COUNTY, IT IS AN OVERSIGHT, IT IS JUST THE CITY, IT IS NOT KING COUNTY, THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE IF KING COUNTY WERE INCLUDED IN THAT. SO THE COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER STRIKING THAT LANGUAGE, IN KING COUNTY. THE SECOND TECHNICAL ISSUE IS DUPLICATE LANGUAGE IN THE REMEDIES SECTION. IT SAYS TWICE THAT FOR A FIRST VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE, THERE CAN BE AN ASSESSMENT OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES, IN AN AMOUNT UP TO TWICE THE UNPAID COMPENSATION DUE, AND THEN IT SAYS, FOR SUBSEQUENT VIOLATIONS, THE PANEL GENESIS OF AN AMOUNT TWICE, AND IT IS UP TO TWICE THE AMOUNT DUE, SO IT IS DUPLICATION, I CHECKED WITH THE EXECUTIVE, AND IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT, SO THEY ARE COULD BE JUST BE INSERTING THE WORD FOR ANY VIOLATION, THERE COULD BE LIQUIDATION DAMAGES THAT NOT TWICE THE AMOUNT THAT IS DUE. >>GOOD, GOOD CATCH. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? >>AND THAT COMPLETES MY PREPARED DISCUSSION FOR THIS AFTERNOON. >>ALL RIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRING IN ANY LAST COMMENTS FOR KARINA? OKAY. WE ARE AT THE END THEN, WHAT IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD? ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE HAVE GOT TO TURN TO PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I THINK WE HAVE GOT OVER 50 PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP AT THIS POINT I AM GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO A MINUTE AND A HALF FOR TESTIMONY AND, IF YOU HEAR SOMEBODY SPEAK SOMETHING THAT SEEMS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO AMEND IT IS VERY HELPFUL, RATHER THAN JUST HEARING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO, WITH THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET GOING, AND I’M GOING TO ASK YOU, PLEASE, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, TO PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, WE WILL HAVE TALK AT COVINA, IF I SLAUGHTER YOUR NAME, THEN PLEASE CORRECT ME. BOB GELBER INCIDENT. AND A LOT OF AHMED. AND WELCOME. >>GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS KIMIKO ON IT, AND A REPRESENTATIVE AT TEAMSTER WALMART SETTING. AND A FORMER UBER DRIVER. AND IF ONE OF THE UBER DRIVER FOUNDERS. I WANT TO MAKE ONE REMARK. TO THAT YOU HAVE INDICATED. AT 2:00 P.M. TODAY IS THE CURRENT TIME, THAT IS WHY A LOT OF DRIVER COMMUNITY COULDN’T MAKE IT OUT HERE, SO THAT IS ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND. MY COMMENT IS VERY MUCH VERY SIMPLE. HERE IN SEATTLE, DRIVERS ARE UNITED AROUND THREE THINGS. NUMBER ONE IS WE ALL DESERVE A FAIR PAY. NUMBER TWO, WE WANT OUR CITY TO BE A FAIR CITY IN THE NATION TO ADDRESS DEACTIVATION. NUMBER THREE, DRIVERS WANT TO HAVE A VOICE. IT IS THEIR LIVELIHOOD, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A VOICE, WHEN WE WORK ON THIS PLATFORM. WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR CONCENTRATING THIS, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES OUR THREE TOP PRIORITIES. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET IT DONE. IT IS SO CRUCIAL FOR DRIVER COMMITTEE. IT IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE HAVE A FORMAL HOUSING OPTION, AS PART OF THIS WORKPLAN. AND ALSO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SEATTLE CLAUSE WORKS FOR EVERYONE, WHICH INCLUDES DRIVERS COMMUNITY, AND EVERYONE IN THIS INDUSTRY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN TODAY. BOB, THEN LOTTO, THEN DON QUERY. >>YES. MY NAME IS BOB GAIL BROWN >>JUST USE, STAND CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >>THE FOLLOWING MIGHT BE BETTER THOUGH. THERE YOU GO. >>OKAY, IS THAT BETTER? OKAY, MY NAME IS BOB GAIL BROWNSON. AND I LOST MY ARM DUE TO CANCER. NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT LOSING MY JOB. I STARTED DRIVING OVER AFTER I RETIRED FROM MY REGULAR JOB, AND SOCIAL SECURITY AND WHATEVER SAVINGS I HAD DON’T QUITE ENOUGH MONEY THERE TO PAY THE BILLS. SO– AND THEN AFTER I WAS HIT BY AN UNINSURED MOTORIST, UBER SHUT OFF MY APP. I CALLED THEM, AND EMAILED THEM, AND WENT TO THE OFFICE WITH A COPY OF THE POLICE REPORT. AND IN THE REPORT, THE DRIVER OF THE OTHER CAR ADMITTED GUILT. AND I WENT TO UBER, WITH A– THE REPORT, AND COOPER SAYS THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. IT WASN’T MY FAULT, AND THE OTHER PERSON, THE OTHER PERSON ADMITTED GUILT. AND I WAS FIRED. HUBER CAUSE IT DEACTIVATION. BUT IT’S BEING FIRED. BEFORE I, BEFORE I RETIRED, I WORKED FOR A SMALL VENDING MACHINE COMPANY. WE FILLED BUBBLEGUM MACHINES, AND KIDDIE RIDES IN THE LOBBIES OF THE GROCERY STORE. THEY TRADED ME TREATED ME LIKE FAMILY. WHEN I LOST MY ARM, MY BOSS EVEN CAME WITH ME TO THE HOSPITAL. I DON’T EXPECT THAT TREATMENT FROM UBER, BUT DRIVERS DO DESERVE TO BE TREATED LIKE, TREATED WITH HUMAN DECENCY AND RESPECT. I URGE YOU TO PASS THE FAIR SHARE PLAN. DRIVERS DESERVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL DEACTIVATION. >>BOB, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. QUITE A STORY. LOTTO DON QUERY AND THEN YOU YAMMER ON TERRACE. >>THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR GIVING IT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. THE NAME IS WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT, I AM A UBER DRIVER. I AM HAPPY TO BE PART OF THE DRIVER LEADER COMMITTEES AT THE TEAMSTER UNION. OUR DRIVER COMMUNITY IS DIVERSE. COMES FROM ALL ACROSS THE WORLD. THIS WEEK ALONE, AFTER MEETING WITH THE TEAMSTER, WITH THE DRIVERS AROMA, SOMALIA, ETHIOPIA, SOUTHERN SUDAN, GAMBIA, JAMBI, KENYA, GAGNE, LaTINA, IRAN, SENEGAL US, AND THE WHITE FOLKS TWO. [ APPLAUSE ] AMONG 30,000 DRIVERS. THERE ARE MANY CULTURAL, TRADITIONAL, AND DIFFERENT POLITICS. PROBABLY 30– 30,000 DRIVERS DIFFERENT OPINION. OUR DIVERSITY MAKES US STRONG. AND WHAT UNITES US IS GREATER THAN WHAT DIVIDES US. AND THAT IS WHAT A UNION IS. AND UNION. UNITY. A PLACE WHERE WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND SPEAK WITH MORE POWERFUL VOICE. DRIVERS ARE UNITED AROUND THREE PRIORITIES. FAIR PAY, TO GIVE DRIVERS A LIVING WAGE. AFTER EXPENSES. PROTECTION FROM DEACTIVATION, AND HAVING A POWERFUL VOICE WITH DRIVER SUPPORT CENTER. ALL OF THIS PRIORITIES ARE INCLUDED IN THE FAIR SHARE PLAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PUTTING DRIVERS PRIORITIES BACK ON THE AGENDA AT THE CITY HALL. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU, LOTTO. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>DON QUERY, YAMMER, AND THEN JAKE LINDSAY. PLEASE, GO AHEAD. >>HELLO, I’M DON QUERY, VERY NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. THERE IS A TIME SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHEN THIS D&C DRIVERS, OR TAXI DRIVERS PROVIDED A MIDDLE- CLASS LIVELIHOOD FOR THOSE WHO DID THE JOB. THEN IN THE YEAR 14, 15, DUE TO THE DISRUPTION, THAT PRETTY MUCH, IN OUR CASE WAS TRAPPED IN ABOUT HALF. AND IN THE YEARS PRECEDING, IT CONTINUE TO GET WORSE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, WE SAW IN DENVER, $.60 A MILE, DRIVERS ARE GETTING IN THE BAY AREA, $.80 A MILE. IN LOS ANGELES, $.80 A MILE. THESE ARE MARKET MARKETS WHERE THE COST OF LIVING IS EVERY BIT AS HIGH AS IT IS HERE. AND I DON’T HESITATE TO PUSH THE PAY DOWN THERE. $.80 A MILE. SO, WE KNOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS. AND IT CAN GET WORSE. IN THE LEAD UP TO UBER’S IP, THEY CUT OUR PAY TWICE, AND THEN THE PERSPECTIVES TO THEIR SHAREHOLDERS, POTENTIAL SHAREHOLDERS, THEY STATED THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING A HIGH LEVEL OF DRIVERS DISCONTENT. THEY EXPECTED THAT DISCONTENT TO CONTINUE, DUE TO ONGOING REDUCTION TO DIRECT DRIVERS INCENTIVES TO GET MORE PROFIT. PRODUCTION OF DRIVERS INCENTIVES, THAT IS CUTTING OUR PAY TO GET FURTHER PAY FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS. SO, THE SITUATION WE ARE IN NOW IS GOING TO GET WORSE. WE REALLY HAVE TO DEPEND ON YOU GUYS TO STEP IN AS THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY, WHICH YOU ARE. AND ASSERT YOUR AUTHORITY OVER, YOU CAN DEAL WITH THE PAY PART OF IT. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, DON. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>YEAH McKAY, AND THEN ON IT MOHAMMED. >>HUMOR? >>YES PLEASE. >>THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, MY NAME IS YAMMER ANDRES. I AM A DRIVER FOR SEVEN YEARS AND EIGHT MONTHS. MY GREAT CONCERN AT THIS TIME IS DRIVERS PAY CUT, AND RISING UBER AND LYFT COMMISSION. WE STOPPED WITH AN 8020 RATIO, AND INCREASED TO 75 TO 25. INCREASE FOR UBER DECREASE FOR DRIVERS. NOW WE ARE AT 60/40% RATIO. ON THE OTHER HAND, COST OF LIVING, AND OPERATING THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN RISING FASTER THAN EVER. WE KNOW RIDERS PAY FAIR AMOUNT FOR THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE, BUT UBER AND LIFT ARE HIDING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT– PORTION OF THE MONEY, FROM DRIVERS AND THEY ARE KEEPING IT FOR THEMSELVES. WE NEED TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO STOP THEM. FROM EXPLOITING, AND STEALING FROM THE DRIVERS EARNING. WE NEED– IF I MAY GIVE ONE SIMPLE FACT, FLAT RATE TO AND FROM DOWNTOWN AIRPORT, STARTED WITH $50. DRIVERS GET 40, AND HUBER GETS 10. FLAT RATE INCREASED 72 $55, DRIVERS GET $41.25. UBER IS NOW CHARGING $64.90. AND NO PENNY IS INCREASED FOR DRIVERS. AND, SAME GOES LIKE UBER SUV, AND FLAT RATE, DOWNTOWN SEATTLE VIEW. THEY ARE EXPLOITING, AND STEALING OUR COMMISSIONS. SO UBER COMMISSION ROSE FROM $10 TO 22 >>I’M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU- – >>THANK YOU FOR MUCH. >>THANK YOU. JAKE ON IT AND– [ APPLAUSE ] >>HELLO, I AM JAKE, I HAVE BEEN A 4.95 START UBER FOR FOUR AND HALF YEARS, I AM GIVING CLOSE TO 10,000 TRIPS. I HAVE MADE SUB MINIMUM WAGE, AFTER EXPENSES EVERY YEAR I HAVE WORKED FOR THEM. MOST COMPANIES ONLY REWARD WORKERS WHO STICK WITH THEM THROUGH THE YEARS, BUT I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN A PAY RAISE. FROM UBER OR LEFT, IN FACT, I HAVE ONLY GOTTEN PAY CUTS FROM THEM, WHETHER PERMANENT, FOUR PER MILE DECREASES, OR IN THE FORM OF PERCENTAGES. IN FACT, JUST RECENTLY LYFT STARTED HIDING FROM US, THE DRIVERS, THE AMOUNT THE PASSENGER PAYS FOR RIGHT, GIVING THEM FREE REIGN TO TAKE EVEN MORE FROM US DRIVERS ON EVERY FARE. AND IN THEIR STOCK, LETTER TO THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION, AS DAWN MENTIONED, UBER SAYS WE AND TO DECREASE DRIVER INCENTIVES, SO THE COMPANIES ARE OPENLY ANNOUNCING TO CUT OUR PAY EVEN MORE, AND WE CANNOT LET THIS STAND. WE DRIVERS NEED AND DESERVE THIS FAIR SHARE LEGAL PLAN, WHICH WILL LEGALLY MANDATE A PAY RAISE FOR DRIVERS, AND GIVE US LEGAL PROTECTIONS AGAINST UNFAIR DEACTIVATION’S. WE DRIVERS ARE THE BACKBONE OF THESE MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR CORPORATE COMPANIES, AND AFTER EXPENSES, LITERALLY GET PAID THE LOW MINIMUM WAGE, A STARVATION WAGE. I CAN ONLY AFFORD MY BELOW MARKET APARTMENT, IN SEATTLE, BY SPLITTING IT WITH MY PARTNER. MEANWHILE, THE UBER CORE FOUNDER HAS A WORTH OF OVER $43 BILLION AND RECENTLY BOUGHT THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOME EVER SOLD. IF THE COMPANY’S LEADERSHIP CAN TAKE BILLIONS, WE AT LEAST DESERVE A MINIMUM WAGE AFTER COVERED EXPENSES, WE AT LEAST DESERVE SICK PAY, BASIC JOB SECURITY, BASIC PROTECTION AGAINST DEACTIVATION, SO PLEASE PASS THIS SET OF LAWS. >>THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>ON IT, THEN ABOUT IRAN AND ADAM A BAKER A BAKER. >>THANK YOU COUNCILMMBERS, MY NAME IS AHMED, AND I AM IN AN UBER DRIVER, AND ALSO REPRESENTING SEATTLE RIGHTS DRIVERS ASSOCIATION. THE FIRST ASSOCIATION OF DRIVERS NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION REGISTERED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE. IN AUGUST 26, 2014. UBER AND ALEX TSIMERMAN 34 LYFT HAVE BEEN MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF OUR WORK, YET MANY DRIVERS ARE IN DEEP POVERTY, AND CONTINUE TO GROW DESPERATE, THERE ARE DRIVERS LIVING AND SLEEPING INSIDE OF THEIR VEHICLES. OTHERS HAVE TROUBLE PAYING THEIR RENTS, EVERY MONTH. BECAUSE OF RISING COST OF LIVING, THROUGHOUT OUR REGION. SOME DRIVERS ARE FORCED TO LEAVE VERY FAR AWAY FROM THEIR WORKING AREA, IN DOWNTOWN SEATTLE IN THE AREA WHERE MOST OF THEIR RIGHTS ARE. THIS PUTS A DRIVER IN A HARSH TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE. FORCING MANY OF TO COMMUTE SEVERAL HOURS EVERY DAY. THE DRIVERS RECOGNIZE THAT OUR REGION IS FACING A HOUSING AFFORDABILITY CRISIS, AND THE DRIVERS ARE NOT SPARED. MANY DRIVERS WILL FORM TAXICAB DRIVERS, WHO OWN TAXI MEDALLIONS. THEIR PRIMARY LIFE INVESTMENT. AND THEY HAVE LOST ALL OF THEIR MONEY. TAXI DRIVERS VOTED HUGE SUMS OF MONEY TO BUY THEIR MEDALLIONS, THROUGHOUT OUR LIFETIME, SEATTLE DRIVERS SURE ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN WORKING WITH DRIVERS. FOR INSTANCE, MANY OF THE DRIVERS ARE IMMIGRANT AND FAMILIES, HAVE FAMILIES BACK HOME. THEY HAVE EVEN A LOT OF PROBLEMS GIVING BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES. >>THANK YOU. >>WE ARE SUGGESTING SOLIDARITY, A RESOURCE CENTER FOR THE DRIVERS. >>THANK YOU. >>AND MEMBERSHIP MEETING, AND A COLLECTIVE DRIVER ADVOCACY. >>THANK YOU. >>PLEASE– GIVE THE MONEY TO THE DRIVERS. >>THANK YOU. ABOUT. [ APPLAUSE ] AT THEM, AND THEN ROY COOPER. >>HI, MY NAME IS ABOUT. >>BRINGS MIKE DUNN THERE. >>MY NAME IS LUBA, I AM ONE OF THE DRIVERS. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS JOB THREE AND HALF YEARS, I AM A FULL-TIME. A MOTHER OF FOUR KIDS. THE CAR IS MINE, COMMITMENTS AND EVERYTHING. THE OVERCHARGE US, I MEAN THE INSURANCE, AND I HAVE TO PAY MY BUSINESS INSURANCE ON MYSELF. AND THE DEAL WAS, I MEAN, WHEN I SIGNED THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT WAS 25%, BUT WHEN I SAY MY STATEMENT, THE OVER AND LIFT THEY DID MORE THAN 40 PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS. THEY DON’T HAVE ANY– WE DON’T HAVE ANY RIGHTS AT ALL, I MEAN WE DON’T HAVE A FAIR PAY, WE DON’T HAVE ANY SO, THAT’S, I MEAN SO, THANK YOU FOR YOU GUYS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOU LISTENING. SO, THAT IS IT. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING. [ APPLAUSE ] >>ADAM. AFTER ADAM IS RICK COOPER, AND AFTER RICK WE HAVE DUSTIN LIBRA.>>YEAH, MY NAME IS– THANK YOU FOR CITY OF SEATTLE. COUNSEL, I HAVE– I AM TRYING TO, I HAVE BEEN WORKING SAY FOUR-YEAR SINCE 2014, 2016. I WAS IN AN INCIDENT THAT THE NEXT DAY WHEN I STARTED DRIVING WITH HUBER, ONE OF THE DRUNK GUY HE, HE HIT ME ON MY FIST LIKE SEVEN TIMES. YOU KNOW, I WAS MY SECOND STAY DRIVING. AND THE GUY, HE, I AM PICKING UP HIS GIRLFRIEND TO DROPPING OFF TO HIS ADDRESS, HE PUNCHED ME ON MY FACE. I DIDN’T THOUGHT BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, I DON’T KNOW THE POLICY, I DIDN’T START YOU KNOW, I’M A NEW GUY. AND THEN, BEFORE I DROP OFF, HE COMES OUT, AND THEN I GO OUT OF THAT AREA, AND THEN I CALL THE POLICE, POLICE COME THEY DIDN’T DO NOTHING. JUST I AM TRYING TO SEND MY MESSAGE WE ARE DRIVERS, WE NEED SUPPORT WE– AT THAT TIME I TOLD UBER, AND UBER, THEY DIDN’T DO NOTHING. UNTIL NOW, MY MY JIG IS SWALLOWED UNTIL NOW, I AM A FATHER OF A BEAUTIFUL GIRL, SHE IS NOT HERE. BUT BACK, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SUPPORT MY FAMILY. I HAVE TO WORK, THAT IS WHY I DIDN’T GO TO THE HOSPITAL. I DIDN’T GO, YES I STILL AND DRIVING WITH UBER. THEY TOLD ME TO PICK FROM EVERYWHERE TO DROP OFF TO AIRPORT, THEY TOLD ME TO PICK UP FROM AIRPORT, AND DROP OFF I AM WORKING. THAT IS MY FIRST TIME JOB. I DON’T HAVE ANY OTHER JOB. BECAUSE THAT WAY IF I DON’T WORK, I DON’T DROP TO AIRPORT, I DON’T MAKE MONEY. >>THANK YOU. >>THAT IS WHAT I’M TRYING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW. BECAUSE UBER THEY DON’T DO NOTHING TO US. YOU GO TO THEIR OFFICE, THEY DON’T HELP US. THAT MY MESSAGE. THANK YOU GUYS. >>THANK YOU, ADAM. [ APPLAUSE ] >>RICK COOPER, DUSTIN, AND KELSEY MEASURE, AND AFTER THAT ON IT LOOMING. >>SLIGHT DETOUR INTO ANOTHER A STOCK ISSUE. I AM RICK COOPER, PRESIDENT OF A UPTOWN ALLIANCE, BUT I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE TODAY, TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF A MUCH LARGER, AND GROWING COALITION OF DIVERSE ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORTING THE NEWLY UPDATED, AND MUCH MORE ROBUST THOMAS STREET GREENWOOD PLAN. ‘S THOMAS STREET GREENWAY IS AN OLD, RECENTLY RESCUED PLAN, AND BROUGHT O SIGNIFICANT NEW LIFE. THANKS TO CRITICALLY NEEDED EFFORTS, BY COUNCILMEMBER BACK, FOCUSED ON A CRITICAL POTENTIL PEDESTRIAN BIKING LINK TO TRANSIT CORRIDOR CONNECTING TO SEATTLE CENTER, A REGIONAL ASSET. HUGE THANKS ALSO TO A STOCK, AND SEATTLE CENTER PLAN, COMING TOGETHER FOR A MUCH BETTER PLAN, TO CREATE INTENSE ENERGY AND ENVISIONING. BUT OUR COLLECTIVE WORK HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL, OVER THE PAST THREE MONTHS, THAT WE ARE NOW READY FOR A CRITICAL LOOK AT BUDGET ISSUES. URGENT NEED AND OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE SEVERAL NEARBY AND ADJACENT OPPORTUNITIES RAPIDLY PLANNING NEW PROJECTS AND READY TO CONTRIBUTE, HERE IS OUR SUPPORT LETTER, WE ARE STILL ADDING SIGNATURES, AS OUR COALITION GROWS, WE ARE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. WE ARE EAGER, AND ANXIOUS TO HELP SUPPORT A BUDGET AMENDMENT. LET’S MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THANK YOU. >>THANKS, RICK. DUSTIN LIBRA, KELSEY AHMED, AND AUDIE. >>HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, HAPPY FRIDAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS BUDGET, AND PARTICULARLY FOR YOUR INTENTION TO ALL OF THESE DETAILS. RELATED TO TNC’S. I AM HERE TODAY, IN MY CAPACITY, AS PRESIDENT OF THE KING COUNTY LABOR COUNCIL. BECAUSE MLK LABOR IS ONE OF THE EARLIEST COALITION PARTNERS, AS PART OF THE FAIR SHARE COALITION, AND IN JUST A FEW SHORT WEEKS, SINCE THE MAYOR ANNOUNCED THE FAIR SHARE PLAN, OVER 60 ORGANIZATIONS HAVE SIGNED ON TO THIS PARTICULAR PLAN. TO, AS YOU HEARD TODAY, FROM THE CENTRAL STAFF, IT IS INCREDIBLY DIVERSE, INCLUDES MLK LABOR, TRANSPORTATION CHOICES COALITION, THE KING COUNTY DEMOCRATS, ONE AMERICA, SEATTLE BUILDING TRADES, AND COUNTLESS OTHERS. MORE THAN 60. SO, WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THAT, WE FEEL VERY GOOD AT THE MOMENT, THEN WE HAVE FELT IN JUST A FEW SHORT WEEKS SINCE THE MAYOR ANNOUNCED THIS PLAN. AND FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT PASSING THIS IN NOVEMBER, AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL AS WE IMPLEMENT THIS. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON IT, AND LET’S GET TO WORK IT APPRECIATE IT. >>THANK YOU. KELSEY AHMED. AND THEN AUGUST THE. KELSEY. >>GOOD AFTERNOON, AND KELSEY MEASURE, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF TRANSPORTATION CHOICES COALITION, I THINK MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE ADVOCATE FOR MORE TRANSPORTATION CHOICES AND THINK A LOT ABOUT HOW OUR SYSTEM WORKS. AND, I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY, WE HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT HOW COMPANIES, BIG COMPANIES LIKE UBER AND LYFT ARE IMPACTING OUR SYSTEM, BUT I’M HERE TODAY TO SAY WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RESERVATIONS ABOUT STANDING WITH OUR LABOR PARTNERS TO STAND UP FOR BETTER PROTECTIONS FOR DRIVERS AND FOR A PATH FOR THEM TO MAKE A LIVING WAGE. THESE OTHER PEOPLE WORKING IN OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, WHO ARE GIVING US RIDES, AND KEEPING US SAFE, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY ARE TREATED WITH DIGNITY, AND EARNING, AND A LIVING WAGE. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS LEGISLATION DOES A LOT MORE THAN THAT, IT ALSO IS GOING TO HELP US ADDRESS SOME OF OUR URGENT ISSUES, AROUND MOBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY, BY FUNDING OUR STREETCAR PROJECT, WHICH IS GOING TO CARRY 20,000 PEOPLE PER DAY. PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION. AND ALSO PROVIDING CRITICAL FUNDING TO BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NEAR TRANSIT. SO WORKING FAMILIES WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPTION TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE A CAR IF THEY WANT TO. AND BE ABLE TO ACCESS JOBS, OPORTUNITIES AND SCHOOLS. SO, I STAND WITH THE FAIR SHARE COALITION, THANK YOU. >>THANKS. [ APPLAUSE ] >>SO, WE HAVE AHMED, AND AUDIE, AND JULIE DAVIS. >>I AM OUT OF CHAIR, PRESIDENT OF COUNSEL, MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL’S, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ABDI CHARETTE, REPRESENTATIVE OF DRIVER ASSOCIATION. WE ARE PROPOSING THAT LEGISLATION WE ARE HERE TODAY SUGGESTION OF THE DRIVERS IS HERE IS BETTER THAN PREVENTION. THE RESOLUTION OF THIS. WE ARE, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT DRIVER SOLIDARITY RESOURCE MEMBERSHIP TRAINING FOR THE E DRIVERS FOR REGISTRATION FAMILY ASSISTANCE. THE CENTERS RUN BY THE DRIVERS, DEMOCRATICALLY, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR THE MONEY WHICH HAS BEEN COLLECTING TO BE GIVEN THE DRIVERS. WE KNOW THAT MOST OF OUR DRIVERS, THEY CAME FROM TAXI, AND LIMOUSINE SERVICE. AND THEY LOST THEIR INVESTMENT. SO IF ANY FUNDING BEING COLLECTED, WE ASK PLEASE TO BE THE DRIVER HAS TO BE BENEFICIALLY, NOT ON SOURCING FROM VARIOUS ENTITY. AND NOT DUPLICATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>THANK YOU. >>ALSO, ONE MORE EDITION, PLEASE WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE CITY COUNCIL IN FUTURE FOR THE LEGISLATION ON FRIDAY. IS ONE OF THE PUBLIC MUSLIM HOLIDAY. THERE ARE MORE DRIVERS WHO MIGHT BE HERE TODAY, LIKE US, WE GET A CHANCE, IF WE CAN AVOID THAT. AND THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. THE LAST TIME THE HOLIDAY WAS TNC, THE PRESIDENT CAN STOP. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>SO WE HAVE OPTED, THEN JULIE DAVIS, AND ISHMAEL. >>I’M JULIE DAVIS. — >>BEFORE WE GET GOING DO WE HAVE AUDI? >>I ALREADY SPEAK. >>OH, AND ONE BEHIND. ARTEMAS WE HAVE JULIE, IS MALE, AND KATIE GRANT. >>SO, MY NAME IS JULIE DAVIS, I HAVE BEEN A DRIVER FOR OVER TWO AND HALF YEARS, 4.96 ON UBER. FIVE-STAR OMELETTE. I’M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SEATTLE RIDE-SHARE DRIVERS ASSOCIATION TO MY WORK WITH SOME OF THE BROTHERS HERE, AND WHAT WE REALLY NEED AS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING IS THE DRIVERS RESOURCE IN SOLIDARITY CENTER. WHAT WE NEED THAT FOR HIS WE NEEDED TO BE RUN BY THE DRIVERS, FOR THE DRIVERS, BECAUSE UBER AND LYFT YOU ARE A NUMBER AND A COMMODITY. IF YOU GO TO THEM WITH A PROBLEM, YOU ARE NOT GETTING ANY RESOURCES, ANY HELP. THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS FOR US. SO, IF WE CAN GET THIS, WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THE NECESSARY THINGS. WHEN WE GET IN AN ACCIDENT, WE CAN’T AFFORD TO HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE. WE CAN’T– WE DON’T HAVE THE RESOURCES. IF WE DON’T HAVE A CAR, WE DON’T WORK, WE CAN’T MAKE MONEY. WE CAN’T PAY RENT. I’M STUCK IN A SITUATION WHERE I CAN’T AFFORD TO MOVE, WITH THE RISING COSTS OF DISTRICT 5, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS HAPPENING ON IT, I’M STUCK. SO THESE ARE SITUATIONS LIKE MYSELF CAN BE A BENEFICIAL FOR, AND SOME OF THE OTHER BROTHERS AS WELL, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TRAINING FOR THE DRIVERS, AND, AND TO GET OVER SOME OF THE LANGUAGE BARRIERS THEY HAVE THROUGH BEING FROM THE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I FEEL A LITTLE NERVOUS. >>YOU ARE DOING GREAT. [ APPLAUSE ] >>BUT, YEAH, IF WE COULD JUST GET SOLIDARITY, AND RESOURCE CENTER THAT IS RUN BY THE DRIVERS DEMOCRATICALLY, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE A DRIVER. >>THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>IS MALE, I HAVE GOT ONE AHEAD OF YOU, ISHMAEL, AT NUMBER 16, O’DELL? NO, IS MALE, IF YOU ARE HERE, COULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, JUST SO I COULD SEE? OKAY, I DON’T SEE ANYBODY BY THAT NAME ARE RESPONDING, SO NICOLE, AND KATIE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. YEAH. YEAH, GET A BUNCH OF THEM APPEAR, AND SO, WE HAVE GOT >>THEY WILL GET UP HERE IN A SECOND. >>WE WILL GET IT, AND THERE IS STILL A FEW PEOPLE, A FEW SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO SIGN UP ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WELL, WELCOME NICOLE, KATIE, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >>THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT HARRELL, COUNCILMEMBERS NICOLE GRANT, FROM MLK LABOR, AND I AM STANDING HERE PROUDLY WITH MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WHO ARE RIDES SHARE DRIVERS. WE ARE PART OF A COALITION OF 60+ ORGANIZATIONS THAT BELIEVE THAT WORKERS RIGHTS, AND A COLLECTIVE VOICE NEED TO BE ON THE TABLE FOR UBER DRIVERS. AND WE THINK THAT THE POLICY THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS THE WAY TO DO IT. IT IS GOOD FOR THE DRIVERS, IT IS GOOD FOR ALL WORKERS, IN OUR CITY, WHO NEED TRANSIT ADJACENT HOUSING, IT IS GOOD FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, GLOBALLY. SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, THIS IS KATIE. >>HI, MY MESSAGES REALLY DIRECTED AT THE DRIVERS, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP TODAY. YOU ALL ARE JOINING A RICH AND HISTORIC TRADITION IN THE UNION MOVEMENT OF DEMANDING A FAIR RETURN ON YOUR WORK. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THE UNION MOVEMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRADITION OF SOLIDARITY. AND SOLIDARITY MEANS YOU’LL NEVER FIGHT ALONE AGAIN. [ APPLAUSE ] >>OKAY, MR. VAN . AS I HAVE HEARD, IT LOOKS LIKE ARRAN ANDERSEN. >>THANK YOU CHAIR, I AM CHAIRMAN PRESIDENT, CEO OF NET CORD TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE TAXI DISTRICT INDUSTRY FOR 12 YEARS OR MORE. CITY POLICY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAS DECIMATED THE INCOMES , AND SAVINGS FOR HIRED DRIVERS. TAXI FOR HIRE, TNC. NOW, THE CITY WANTS TO TAKE THE PASSENGER FARES, THESE DRIVERS EARNED, TO FUND WHAT? STREETCARS? HOUSING? THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT HELP DRIVER INCOME. THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT REGULATE UBER OR LYFT, IT IS VOLUNTARY. THE ONLY VOLUNTARY THING UBER AND LYFT HAVE DONE. I BEEN AROUND SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND. IS DRIVE DRIVER INCOME INTO THE GROUND. IF THE PROPOSAL, THAT IS WAY THEY SAY THIS, IF THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU DOES ANYTHING, OTHER THAN PUT CASH MONEY DIRECTLY INTO FOR HIRE DRIVERS POCKETS, MY COMPANY NOT CAR, WE WILL SPONSOR AN INITIATIVE TO REPEAL IT. PATTERNED AFTER INITIATIVE 91, WHICH WAS THE SUCCESSFUL CHALLENGE TO MONEY FOR THE SONICS, AND THOSE BILLIONAIRES. THE FAIR SHARE INITIATIVE WILL REPEAL THE ORDINANCE, RESTRICT USE OF ANY TAX ON FOR HIGHER RATES, TO THE OFFSETTING OF FOR HIRE VEHICLE DRIVER OPERATIONAL EXPENSE, AND NOTHING ELSE. REQUIRE THE CITY TO SET MINIMUM FOR HIRE PASSENGER RATES AT NO LESS THAN THREE TIMES THE IRS ALLOWED EXPENSE DEDUCTION FOR MILEAGE, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT A DOLLAR 74 PER MILE. PLUS WAIT TIME. [ APPLAUSE ] >>THE CITY’S– FOR HIRE DRIVERS IS FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG, HAS THE CITY OF SEATTLE NO SHAME? YOU ARE NOT GOING TO RAISE DRIVER INCOME, IT IS GOING TO STAY DOWN HERE, BUT YOU ARE TAKING THE MONEY. THAT IS WRONG. >>MR. VAN . [ APPLAUSE ] >>ANNA, AND THEN ARRAN ANDERSEN, AND THEN JESSE MOORE. IT LOOKS LIKE JESSE HAS A GROUP.>>ANNA ZERO HOURS, AND PROGRAM DIRECTOR ROOTED IN RIGHTS AND DISABILITY RIGHTS IN WASHINGTON, AND WE ARE PART OF THE FAIR SHARE COALITION, WE SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL. AND, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING LATELY, AMONG DISABILITY GROUPS, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE TNC’S ARE TRYING TO PITCH THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY AGAINST OUR LABOR, AND COMMUNITY ALLIES. AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO STAND FOR THAT. THEY ARE LYING ABOUT THE SUPPORT THEY HAVE FROM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY, I AM A MEMBER OF A NATIONAL BLIND ORGANIZATION, THAT DOES NOT SUPPORT LYFT, AND YET LYFT SAYS THEY ARE SAYING THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT FOR THE TNC TEXT. OUR GROUP IS FRUSTRATED THAT TNC DID NOT PROVIDE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES WITH UBER AND LYFT VEHICLES IN SEATTLE. SO WE WILL BE STANDING WITH OUR LABOR AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO FIGHT WITH TRANSPORTATION THAT SERVES OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, WE NEED TO STAND UP AND BE CLEAR WITH LYFT AND UBER THAT THEY CAN’T PUT OUR COMMUNITY AGAINST LABOR ALLIES. ALSO, WHILE MY PARTIES ARE COME I WANT TO SPEAK QUICKLY TO TWO OTHER PIECES OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING TODAY, IN FAVOR OF THE FUNDING FOR THE CONNECTION FOR THE NEW AMISH LONGHOUSE. I HAVE TRYING TO CROSS MARGINAL WAYS THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN, IT IS TERRIFYING, AND APPALLING THAT OUR GAP IN THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM EXISTS. AND ALSO SUPPORTIVE FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION EQUITY AGENDA, AND THE WORKGROUP, I THINK IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE RETHINK THE WAY WE HAVE COMMITTEES, AND THE WAY IT WORKS IN OUR CITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR CITY, NOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE TIME TO VOLUNTEER. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU, FOR COMING, AND APPEARED ARRAN ANDERSEN, AND AFTER AARON IS JESSE, AND THEN DENNIS LEWIS. HI. >>HI, I’M ARRAN ANDERSEN. I OWN MY OWN COMPANY, I DON’T WORK FOR TRAN 33, A CONTRACT WITH UBER, AND I LOVE THE IDEA BEHIND WHAT THIS IS TRYING TO DO. I JUST THINK THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT IS COMPLETELY WRONG. I BELIEVE THAT TAKING THE MONEY FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT AND PUTTING IT INTO PUBLIC TRANSIT IS GOING TO PRODUCE LESS WRITERS FOR UBER AND LIFT, THEREBY DECREASING THE ACTUAL INCOME THAT DRIVERS ARE MAKING. I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS SHORTSIGHTED, AND WE NEED TO LOOK A LITTLE MORE LONG-TERM AT IT, I LOVE WHAT IT IS TRYING TO DO I JUST DON’T THINK THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, OR HOW IT IS BEING DONE IS CORRECT. I MAKE PLENTY OF MONEY TO LIVE, I PAY FOR MY CAR, I PAY FOR MY RENT, MY DAUGHTER AND I ARE GOING TO GO SEE CINDERELLA OPERA THIS SUNDAY, SO IF I AM MAKING LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE, HOW AM I DOING THOSE THINGS? I MAKE PLENTY OF MONEY, I WILL NOT QUALIFY FOR ANY OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT YOU GUYS ARE SUGGESTING, BECAUSE I WOULDN’T BE IN THAT CATEGORY. AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RETHOUGHT, AT HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE. AND THEN I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR IT, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND RELOOK AT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, AS OPPOSED TO JUST RUSHING FORWARD AND SAYING YES, LET’S HELP DRIVERS. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE GOT THREE NOW, JESSE MOORE, AND YOU WANT TO PUT FIVE MINUTES UP THERE FOR THEM? THANK YOU. AND IF YOU CAN DO IT FASTER THAN FIVE MINUTES, THAT IS FINE TOO. >>OKAY, GREAT. HI, I AM JESSE MOORE, WITH NEW AMISH KELLY STREETS, AND I’M JOINED BY BOB WINSHIP, FROM WEST SEATTLE AT CONNECTIONS AND DR. JEFFREY PERKINS, CONSULTANT TO THE NEW AMISH TRIED. AND, WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT MEMBERS OF THE NEW AMISH TRIED, WHO ARE SICK REQUESTING $2 MILLION IN FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF SEATTLE, FOR THE NEW AMISH LONGHOUSE SAFE STREET, AND ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT. THE LONGHOUSE OPENED IN 2009, AND IS THE CULTURAL CENTER FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THE PUGET SAILORS REGION. PUBLIC COMMUNITY EVENTS OFTEN USE THE LONGHOUSE, AND THE TWO PARKS, ERIC’S HOUSE, AND T107 DIRECTLY ACROSS MARGINAL WAY 107 SOUTH. THE T107 PARK IS PART OF NATIONAL HISTORICAL PLACES AND IS A NATIONAL ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE THAT IS OF IMPORTANCE TO THE NEW AMISH TRIED. IT IS NOT SERVED BY TRANSIT, SO PEOPLE DRIVING TO EVENTS, PARKED ACROSS THE STREET IN THE PARK’S PARKING LOT WILL OTHERS COME BY BICYCLE USING THE NEW AMISH TRAIL. IT IS NOT SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK BETWEEN THE PARKS, THE PARKING LOT, THE TRAIL IN THE LONGHOUSE. CROSSING HERE IMPOSES AN EVEN BIGGER OBSTACLE FOR PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY CHALLENGES. IT CAN FEEL REALLY SCARY, LIKE YOU ARE QUOTE TRYING TO CROSS A HIGHWAY LIKE I-FIVE, WHERE DRIVERS DON’T EXPECT TO ENCOUNTER PEOPLE WITH MARGINAL HAS FIVE LANES, HEAVY TRUCKS, AND TRAFFIC SPEEDS REGULARLY EXCEED 50 MILES PER HOUR. THE NEW AMISH TRIED APPLIED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET FUND IN 2018 TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM AND IT WAS SUPPORTED BY A STRONG MAJORITY OF LEADERS, AND COMMUNITY GROUPS UNFORTUNATELY THE PROJECTS THAT EXCEEDED THE LIMITS, AND COULDN’T BE FUNDED BY THAT PROGRAM. THANKFULLY THOUGH, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO CREATE A DESIGN CONCEPT AND A COST ESTIMATE TO BUILD A SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE CROSSING, BETWEEN THE LONGHOUSE, AND ASSETS, AND EAST SIDE OF THE STREET. AND THIS DESIGN WOULD ALSO CREATE A SAFE BUS LOADING, AND A PARKING AREA IN FRONT OF THE LONGHOUSE, AND HELP TO REDUCE TRAFFIC SPEEDS. ASKED OUT STAFF ESTIMATES THAT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AT THE COST OF $2 MILLION, INCLUDING CONTINGENCIES. THE GREAT NEWS IS NOW THERE IS A $2 MILLION SOLUTION TO THIS 10-YEAR-OLD PROBLEM. AND ALL THAT IS NEEDED FOR THAT SOLUTION TO’S SUCCEED IS TO PLACE THE NECESSARY FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT IN THE CITY’S 2020 BUDGET. AND I HOPE YOU BELIEVE, AS I DO THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE ONE SIMPLE WAY TO SHOW THANKS TO THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE OUR CITY BOTH ITS NAME, AND THE LAND THAT IT IS BUILT ON. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. >>I AM BOB WINSHIP, WITH WEST SEATTLE FLIGHT CONNECTIONS, WE ARE ONE OF THE 12 NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST FOR FUNDING. A MAN OUR ACTIVITIES IS AN ANNUAL RIGHT TO HISTORICAL SITES IN WEST SEATTLE. OPERATION IN SOUTHWEST SEATTLE. THIS YEAR’S RIDE, VISITED COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES. AT THE NEW AMISH LONGHOUSE. ALTHOUGH, THERE ARE NO BUS CONNECTIONS IT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE BY BICYCLE, AND THE WEST AMISH TRAIL, OR AT LEAST IT SHOULD BE. HOWEVER, AS JESSE EXPLAINED, THE LACK OF A PROTECTIVE CROSSING, DIZZY, WIDE, WEST MARGINAL WAY MAKE THIS TOO DANGEROUS FOR A LARGE GROUP, INCLUDING YOUNG INEXPERIENCED CYCLISTS. WE RELUCTANTLY DROPPED THE LONGHOUSE FROM OUR TOUR. THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD HELP OVERCOME. IT WOULD MAKE THE LONGHOUSE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE, AND IS SHARED BY ALL SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AS IS EVIDENCED BY THE WAGERING SUPPORT. I URGE YOU TO INCLUDE FUNDING IN THIS YEAR’S PROJECT. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. >>I AM DR. PERKINS, I’VE BEEN WITH THE HOMAGE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I AM JUST HERE TO REINFORCE WHAT I SAID THE LAST TIME. KING COUNTY COUNCILMAN GENTLEMAN DORMAN HAS MANDATED THAT THE HOUSE IS A REGIONAL ASSET, I HOLD IN MY HAND, RIGHT HERE, MONEY THEY GET FROM ALL OF THE WORLD, PEOPLE WHO HAVE VISITED THEM. THIS JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE $300,000 IN TENS, OF COURSE, SO THEY SOLD SOME PICTURES, BECAUSE THEY WANTED PICTURES OF THE CHIEF, AND THEY COULDN’T HAVE REALLY AFFORDED IT. ONE DAY IF I GO TO TENS IN THERE, I WILL BE A RICH MAN. BUT ANYWAY, WE NEED TO SUPPORT THIS, BECAUSE ONLY IN PERUGIA ITALY, THIS IS THE CITY OF SEATTLE, IS THERE A FAN, A 28 FOOT FAN, BY MARVIN OLIVER, SCULPTURE AT UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON, NATIVE AMERICAN, WHO PASSED JUST RECENTLY, THAT FAN IS ON THE SOIL OF PERUGIA, IT IS THE ONLY NATIVE AMERICAN SOIL FROM SEATTLE TO PERUGIA, AND LAST DECEMBER, A PEACEFUL, NOW IN FRONT OF THEIR PERSIAN MARKET, AND THERE IS A PIECE PULLED IN THE NEW AMISH LONGHOUSE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY A GROUP OF PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND. SO, ANYWAY, WE NEED TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE OVER 50,000 PEOPLE HAVE VISITED THERE, UNDER THESE UNSAFE CONDITIONS, SCHOOLKID COME FROM EVERYWHERE, PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD CONTINUE TO COME TO THE DORMS LONGHOUSE, THERE ARE CHIEF SEATTLE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE GLASS GLACIER ICE AGE, IT HAS BEEN THERE FOLKLORE, AND EVERYWHERE. AND WE STAND FOR THE NEW AMISH AS A PEOPLE. >>THANK YOU. THANK YOU THREE FOR COMING DOWN.>>GOOD AFTERNOON, I’M DENNIS LEWIS. I’VE BEEN IN UBER DRIVER FOR NEARLY 5 YEARS. I WOULDN’T EVEN HAVE A JOB, BECAUSE I WAS DISABLED, THEY GAVE ME OFF DISABILITY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE RIDE-SHARE FOR DOING THAT FOR ME AT LEAST. THIS THING HAS REALLY GOT ME TORN. I CAME IN, AND I HEARD ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES. BUT ANYTHING THAT CAN BENEFIT OUR DRIVERS AND THE CITY OF SEATTLE, I AM ALL FOR. BUT I REALLY WANT TO COME IN AND GIVE MY TWO CENTS, BECAUSE I COULD BE OUT THERE MAKING MONEY RIGHT NOW, IT COST ME $44 TO PARK TODAY. >>WOW. >>THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY. FOR US DRIVERS. SO, BUT HOPEFULLY WITH THIS $.51 PER RIDE IS ENOUGH, IS THERE ANY GUARANTEE IT IS GOING TO STAY AT $.51? PER RIDE? OUR WRITERS DON’T EVEN GET TO SEE SOMEONE COME I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE A SAY. BUT THAT’S WHAT I CAME HERE TO SAY TO GIVE MY LITTLE TWO CENTS. IS JUST AN ORDINARY JOE. ALL THOSE ORDINARY JOE’S OUT THERE WE MUST HAVE A VOICE IN ALL THESE DEBATES SO, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING DENNIS. ERIC PATTERSON AND ONLY GO TO MOTO. SPECTRAL PATTERS AND I WERE TWO CAPS HERE. I RECEIVED A CALL LATE LAST NIGHT, FROM SOMEONE SAYING THEY WERE UBER. AND UBER’S NEVER CALL ME, BUT THEY ASKED ME TO COME AND TESTIFY HERE AGAIN, TESTIFIED TWICE BEFORE. I WILL START FIRST WITH THE PROFESSIONAL. CAPACITY. SOCIAL SCIENTIST, HUMAN GEOGRAPHY, THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON. I COLLECTED DATA. >>I’M SORRY, CAN YOU JUST SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. >>I COLLECT DATA. I STARTED WITH HUBER HERE UBER, LIKE I SAID, UBER DOESN’T CALL ANYBODY. EVERYTHING IS DONE INSIDE THIS PP. I CALL I CARRY TWO TELEPHONES I AM REQUIRED TO, ONE FOR COLLECTING DATA, THE OTHER ONE FOR PERSONAL USE. IN UBER’S APP, UBER ASKS US CERTAIN QUESTIONS. THIS WAS BEFORE THEY SOLD THE COMPANY, FOR $90 BILLION. OKAY? THINGS HAVE CHANGED NOW. I HAVE NOTICED. I HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR A MONTH, WITHOUT PAY, I HAD PERSONAL ATTORNEYS, THAT I HAD TO CALL AND EVEN MY PERSONAL ATTORNEYS QUIT ON ME. THEY DIDN’T WANT TO GO UP AGAINST UBER. NOW, THAT IS– MY PERSONAL STORY HERE FIRST. AND LIKE I SAID, I COLLECT DATA, AND PRO-UBER. AND UBER ASKED ME ALL OF WHAT I HEARD HAS BEEN GOOD. VERY GOOD VERY VALID. EVERYTHING. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WAS ASKED WHEN I STARTED DRIVING WITH UBER IS WHY I DRIVE FOR UBER, AND I WROTE THIS ON MY UBER PROFILE– >>DALE I AM GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP UP PLEASE, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US YOUR LAST SENTENCE. >>OKAY, MY LAST SENTENCE HERE, IS WE, THE DRIVER SHOULDN’T BE PUNISHED HERE IN SEATTLE FOR PROVIDING A SERVICE THAT SEATTLE NEEDS. >>THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>WE HAVE GOT ERIC, ERIC MALONEY. AND THEN NICOLA NOTO. >>ARE YOU ERIC. ISHMAEL IT A LOT. >>I AM ERIC MALONEY. A >>I AM SORRY, AND YOU HAVE A NUMBER? >>YEAH, YOU CALLED ME. >>YOU ARE ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I CALLED >>AND YOU ARE ISHMAEL? OKAY, GOOD, LET’S LET THIS GENTLEMAN SPEAK AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU. >>THANK YOU. >>GOOD AFTERNOON I’M ERIC MALONEY, I’M A FULL-TIME WITH DRIVER, I HAVE GIVEN MORE THAN 9000 RIDES, AND ENJOYED POINT 4.00 WRITING, AND THE 1% EXIT EXIT THE TRADE. EARLIER THIS YEAR, LIZ COMPLETED AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY THAT SAID THAT MORE THAN HALF OF OUR PASSENGERS IN THE SEATTLE CITY OF SEATTLE EARN LESS THAN $50,000 A YEAR, THAT IS THE WORKING POOR. I AM THE WORKING POOR, EVERY DAY I AM DRIVING MY PEOPLE LOW INCOME WORKERS TO AND FROM THEIR JOBS, BRISTOW’S, FAST FOOD WORKERS, COOKS, NANNIES, RETAIL WORKERS, THEY CAN’T AFFORD A CAR. THEY CAN’T AFFORD TO RELY ON OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, WHICH DOESN’T HAVE MUCH OVERNIGHT SERVICE, AND ISN’T PARTICULARLY RELIABLE. THE MAYOR KEPT ASKED DEAN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT DON’T HAVE TWO QUARTERS, THEY DON’T HAVE TO QUARTERS, IF THEY COMMUTE TO AND FROM EVERY DAY OF WORK SIX DAYS A WEEK, THAT A $300 A YEAR EVERY DAY I DRIVE THESE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE IN THEIR TAX BRACKET TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD 300 BUCKS FOR AN AMBULANCE. THEY DON’T HAVE THAT 300 BUCKS, HOW DO THEY HAVE THIS 300 BUCKS? GIVEN THAT, IT STANDS TO REASON THAT THIS TAX IS MISGUIDED, REGRESSIVE, UNFAIR, AND IS PICKING ON THE PEOPLE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD IT. THE HARD-WORKING PEOPLE OF SEATTLE, MAKE THIS CITY THE GREAT PLACE THAT IT IS. THESE DON’T PICK ON THEM. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ISHMAEL, PLEASE GO AHEAD, AND THE NUMBER– >>FROM UBER . >>CAN YOU HOLD FOR JUST A SECOND, WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE DIFFICULTY HERE. WE HAVE GOT NICO’S NUMBER 25, AND CHRISTINA HERNANDEZ– GOOD, THANK YOU, YOU ARE NUMBER 26. SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE STEP UP TO A MICROPHONE, YOU WILL BE THIRD. PLEASE, NOW GO AHEAD, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. >>OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MY NAME ISHMAEL I AM DRIVING OVER 2017. THE SHORT ACT. SHUT DOWN MY APP IN 2017. I GO OFFICE MANY TIME, THEY DIDN’T OPEN TO YOU. I’VE BEEN RENTED 700 ARGO EXPENSIVE I BUY THIS CAR, NEW CAR THEY SHUT ME DOWN, THEN I TAKE CARE OF MY MOM, PASSED AWAY. I TAKE CARE OF MY BROTHERS, MY YOUNG BROTHER, AND MY DAD’S OLD GUY, ALSO I TAKE CARE OF HIM. I DON’T HAVE ANY INCOME, THEY SHUT ME MY APP FOR NO REASON. I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING. >>YEAH. >>I’M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE CONCLUDING DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? >>OKAY. I AM SAYING LIKE, I DO LIKE SO MUCH INCOME IF I HAVE SO EXPENSIVE THEY ARE LIKE, IS IT MY DAD, MY MOTHER IS PASS AWAY. MY BROTHER IS YOUNG, I TAKE CARE OF HIM. IS IT MY INCOME, I DOING TO HIM, AND UBER. IS UBER LIKE SHUT DOWN MY APP. I AM ASKING COUPLE TIMES THEY DIDN’T TELL ME WHY. THEY SHUT DOWN MY APP. AND THEY ARE LIKE, I BUY ALSO I WANT TO DRY OUT DRIVE ALSO TO HUBER. THEY DIDN’T TELL ME ANY REASON. I LOSE A LOT OF THING, MY INCOME IS FROM REASON FOR MOVER. YEAH. [ APPLAUSE ] >>NICO? >>THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. AND CRISTIANO, NEXT AND THEN JULIE DAVIS HAS ALREADY SPOKEN, SO I WILL TAKE YOU OFF, AND STEVE COBIT VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU CITY COUNCILMEMBER, MY NAME IS NICO, I LIVED FOR ABOUT SINCE 2015. AND THEN I AM SORRY ABOUT MY LANGUAGE, BECAUSE I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY MOUTH. >>WE CAN HEAR YOU VERY WELL. >>YEAH, AND I AM PAYING FOR ABOUT WHAT I USE UNTIL NOW YOU KNOW? I DON’T GET WELFARE FROM THE GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW? I THINK I AM GOOD ENOUGH JUST IF YOU INCREASE THE TAX I BELIEVE I’M GOING TO GET MORE LESS RIDERS, BECAUSE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH ONE OF THE HE IS WALKING IN THIS BUILDING AND SHE SAY IF SHE HAVE TO PAY MORE AND SHE WILLING TO DRIVE BECAUSE HE USED LYFT AND UBER, BECAUSE YOU DON’T WANT TO PAY PARKING YOU KNOW, AND SO THIS MY CONCERN. AND THEN A GAP FOR HOW MUCH MINIMUM WAGE, AS AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, I DON’T NEED THE GAP, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT THE GAP, IS IT IN NEW YORK, $17 AND 50 THEY CANNOT WALK, BECAUSE THEY PUT A SCHEDULE ON THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR COMING, NICO. CRISTIANO, AND THEN STEVE LOVETT, AND THEN A NAME THAT IS- – I CANNOT READ, NUMBER 29. POTENTIALLY JEFFREY? RUNNING? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE GO AHEAD. WE WILL WORK THIS OUT. >>OKAY, THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS CHRISTIANA RUN UNDER SANDOVAL, I AM A FIVE STAR RATING, WITH NEARLY 2500 RIGHTS, AND IT IS MY FULL-TIME GIG AS OF AUGUST LAST YEAR. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW, AND WITHIN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, I HAVE GROWN AND MATURED QUITE A A LOT IN THAT TIME. A LOT OF IT I– EXCUSE ME, A LOT OF IT I OWE TO THE RETRO INDUSTRY. BECAUSE OF THIS I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MANAGE MY OWN BUSINESS AT MY OWN HOURS AND TAKE CARE OF WHAT I NEED TO, LIKE BILLS AND SUCH, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I HAVE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP A LOT OF ESSENTIAL SKILLS WITH THROUGH THIS OPPORTUNITY. NOW, I LOVE WORKING WITH PEOPLE, AND I LOVE PROVIDING A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND CONTINUING TO EXERCISE MY PERSONAL SKILLS. RIDE-SHARE IS A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE. THE UP TO PROVIDE A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION AND STUFF, GETTING PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO POINT B AROUND THE CITY, WHETHER IT IS TO BALLARD OR DOWNTOWN OR WHEREVER. AT NIGHT, I AM ABLE TO GET FOLKS HOME SAFELY AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT AND ABOUT ESPECIALLY, WHO ARE OUT COMING FROM THE BARS. AT NIGHT TIME. DURING THE FALL AND WINTER TIME, MY RIDE IS GO UP BETWEEN VARIOUS BUSINESS TRIPS, COMING INTO TOWN, I WORK HARD, AND I KNOW I AM DOING GOOD WORK. YOU KNOW? HELPING RESIDENTS GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, MORE DEPENDABLE, COMFORTABLE AND AFFORDABLE MANNER. IT BRINGS ME TO MY CONCLUSION. THE $.75 TAX WILL HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY THAT THE MAYOR IS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. AND WITH HER PROPOSAL, MY EARNINGS SHOULD NOT BE JEOPARDIZED BY THE PROJECTS, THAT AREN’T FACTORING OUR THOUGHTS AS DRIVERS AND FEELINGS AS A RIDE-SHARE DRIVER, AND AS ME, YOUR CONSTITUENT. SO THAT BEING SAID, I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK, AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY TESTIMONIAL, AND VALIDITY OF THIS PROPOSAL. >>CHRISTINA NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS, AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER HER BELT HAS A QUESTION. >>QUIS QUESTION FOR US TO CONSIDER IS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE THE ELASTICITY STUDY, BECAUSE I’M HEARING PEOPLE REALLY CONCERNED THAT THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THEIR POCKETS. >>RIGHT. >>AND IF WE HAVE REASSURANCES THAT IT WILL NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH FOLKS. >>IT WAS PART OF THE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS THIS MORNING. SO I THINK IT IS A FINE IDEA. >>IT ALREADY HAS BEEN PUBLISHED. >>I DON’T KNOW THAT IT HAS, BUT WE SAW IT THIS MORNING SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF IT IS NOT UP TODAY, THAT IT WILL BE UP BY NIGHT. >>KOREAN, HAS IT BEEN PUBLISHED? SO IT HAS NOT BEEN PUBLISHED? >>BUT IT WOULD BE. AND CERTAINLY COULD BE, BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING CONFIDENTIAL ON IT. OKAY, WELL I THINK WE– I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, SO, IF WE COULD– MAYBE WE COULD JUST GET SOME COPIES OF THAT, WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE TODAY? LIKE NOW? WOULD YOU? THANK YOU KARINA. SO, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT UP HERE IS THIS MORNING WE WERE GIVEN SOME INFORMATION THAT SHOWED BASED UPON MODELING IF THE TAX WAS RAISED TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WHAT THE IMPACT ON THE DOLLARS WOULD BE. AND THEN I THINK IT WAS $.20 INCREMENTS, AND, WE WERE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THE MODELING SUGGESTS THAT THE NUMBER OF RIDERS WILL BE REDUCED IN A VERY SMALL WAY, EVEN IF WE WENT UP TO THE HIGHEST NUMBER PROPOSED OR CONSIDERED. SO, WE WILL GET THAT FOR YOU, AND JUST TO BE SOME COPIES HERE TODAY TO LOOK AT IT. AND IT WAS PRELIMINARY DATA, BUT I THINK IT IS WORTHY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU NOW. OKAY, THANK YOU, I AM GLAD YOU ARE HERE, AND STEVE, AND AFTER STEVE, THERE IS A NAME THAT I CANNOT READ, BUT MY BEST GUESS FOR THE LAST NAME IS PUHU. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE IT IS CLEMENT, WE ARE GOING TO START HAVING AWARDS FOR THE WORST HANDWRITING IN THE BEST HANDWRITING. SO, STEVE, PLEASE. OR WELL HOW ARE YOU. >>I AM STEVE LOVETT, I HAVE BEEN A LIFT DRIVER FOR THREE YEARS, PRIMARILY PART-TIME, SEMI RETIRED. BUT MY KIDS AREN’T SO SURE OF THAT. I GOT INTO LYFT, BECAUSE I WORK AT HOME, AND MY DAUGHTER ENCOURAGED ME SAID I NEED TO GET AWAY FROM A COMPUTER, DOING MY WORK GET OUT AND ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY. AND IT HAS BEEN A VERY POSITIVE- – VERY POSITIVE VENTURE, WE WILL PUT IT THAT WAY. AS A PUBLIC– FORMER PUBLIC SERVANT AS WELL, MYSELF. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE THE EXPERIENCES AND I TRULY HAVE ENJOYED THE 34, I HAVE ENJOYED THE FLEXIBILITY IT GIVES ME, AND I ACTUALLY MAKE PRETTY GOOD MONEY DOING IT, QUITE FRANKLY. I HAVE NEVER BEEN DISAPPOINTED IN LYFT PERSONALLY AND I DO QUITE WELL AT IT. ONE THING I FEEL THAT IS LOST IN THESE DISCUSSIONS IS IS PASSENGERS. I PICKED UP PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS, SERVICE ANIMALS, BIKES, A GIRL GOT HURT GOING HOME, I PICKED HER UP ON HER BIKE. GROCERY STORES, GETTING IT TO TWICE, GOING TO THE STORE, AND COMING BACK. I HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF PEOPLE BETWEEN JOBS, WHERE THEY CAN’T GET TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN TIME TO GET WHERE THEY ARE GOING. AND JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS. I HAVE A FRIEND, WHO LIVES IN BELLEVUE, HE LIVES IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, HE WORKS IN CAPITOL HILL, HE CANNOT GET A BUS BACK, AND HE DEPENDS ON THEM TO GET THEM HOME, AND IT COSTS THING, AND I TALK TO OTHER PASSENGERS WHO DON’T LIKE TO GO TO THIRD AVENUE TO WAIT FOR A BUS, WHERE PEOPLE DON’T LIKE TO RIDE THE LIGHT RAIL UP IN THAT UNIVERSITY STATION UP THERE, BECAUSE IT IS UNSAFE, SO , THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THAT THE TAX THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING IS PART OF THIS. I AM ALL FOR DOING SOMETHING FOR– TO HELP DRIVERS OUT, BUT AS A FORMER PUBLIC SERVANT, I DON’T THINK I WOULD HAVE EVER PUSHED FORTH A RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING TO TAX SOMETHING TO FINANCE SOMETHING ELSE. LIKE YOU ARE PROPOSING FOR THE STREETCAR AND THE HOUSING. IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO BE DONE, IT NEEDS TO BE HELPING THE DRIVERS AND NOT SPENT ON OTHER PROJECTS. >>THANK YOU, STEVE. >>ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SO THE LAST NAME– THAT IS IT, YOU ARE IN. AND, YEAH, YOU DID WELL. >>MY FIRST NAME IS HALEY. >>IS WHAT? >>HALEY. SO CLOSE. >>THERE IS A HALEY IN THAT? OKAY,– >>NOT PRINTED MY NAME. >>I DON’T SEE ANY PART OF HALEY IN THAT. >>HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY TESTIMONY TODAY. I AM A FULL-TIME UBER WRITER, SO I AM DOING THIS FULL-TIME AS I SAID ON ONLINE MARKETING AND REAL ESTATE LESSONS TO BE A BROKER, SO I HAVE PLANS TO NOT DO THIS FOREVER, BUT TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, IF YOU PUT THIS TAX AND THE PASSENGER HAS TO PAY UP TO $.75 MORE, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY PROBLEMATIC IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. I HEAR ALL OF THE TIME, PEOPLE WILL NOT GO TO THAT ZONE, OR WAIT TILL THE PRIMETIME HOURS, ARE DONE BEFORE THEY GET RIDES, THEY WILL DO– THEY WILL CHECK UBER, THEY WILL CHECK LYFT . THEY ARE ALREADY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW CHEAP THEY CAN GET FROM A TO B. AND SO IF THAT TAXES IMPOSED, I EXPECT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HESITATE, AND THAT HESITATION WILL END UP BEING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT LESS DRIVERS, OR A LOT LESS PASSENGERS, PLUS IT IS HURTING THE DRIVER FROM THE LESS RIDES THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN, PLUS IF YOU HAD NOTICE, THE GAS HAS GONE UP TWICE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS THAT I HAVE SEEN, AND SO OUR INCOMES ARE GOING TO BE GREATLY AFFECTED BY THE OUT TURN EXPERT OUT PUTS FROM GAS INCREASE. PLUS THE RIDES FROM THIS TAX INCREASE. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU, PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS TAX, BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THE BEST BENEFIT OF ALL OF THE DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS ALTOGETHER. >>THANK YOU. THE NEXT PERSON THAT SIGNED UP HIS NUMBER 30. MY GUESS HERE IS THAT IT IS CLEMENT CLINIC? ALL RIGHT, I’M GOING TO MOVE ON, AND IF SOMEONE HE IS AT THE END, AND SAYS THAT WE DIDN’T TELL YOU, YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. RICK BROWNING, AND HAVE A CAR AND THEN WE HAVE TERESA BOWMAN. HELLO. >>HI, GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THE BUDGET. RICK BROWNING, LOCAL ARCHITECT, AND CHAIR OF THE UPTOWN ALLIANCE. THAT IS THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP. TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. SO, I AM NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT TNC, ALTHOUGH THAT IS OF INTEREST TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR SURE. RATHER, I AM SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE THOMAS STREET GREENWAY PROJECT. AND COUNCILMEMBER BAD SHAW SAID NOT TO REPEAT INFORMATION, BUT I AM GOING TO REPEAT THE THINGS WE HEARD EARLIER, TO COUNCILMEMBER BAD SHAW, FOR HELPING WITH THIS. I THINK SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF THE PROJECT AS WELL I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY STATE THIS IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT THIS IS NOT A CONNECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOODS , THE IT IS A PROJECT OF REGIONAL, MAYBE EVEN NATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE. INSOFAR AS WE HAVE A CENTRAL PARK IN SEATTLE, IT IS THE SEATTLE CENTER. THIS PROJECT IS A GATEWAY TO THE SEATTLE CENTER, AND IT IS DESIGNED IN A WAY, TO PROVIDE MODE EQUITY FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS. AS MERCER IS A VERY CAR CENTRIC , BUSY, AND SORT OF SCARY PLACE, THIS COULD BE A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE, AND A PLACE FOR MODES TO ACCESS THE CENTER, AND REALLY A LANDMARK PROJECT FOR SEATTLE, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING AS STOTT NEEDS TO COMPLETE THE SEGMENT, BETWEEN THE SEATTLE CENTER, AND DEXTER. WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS. THEY HAVE BEEN SQUISHY ON IT. BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS. >>THANKS FOR COMING. AND ALSO THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON THE DESIGN THAT WAS REALLY GREAT EFFORT. AVATAR? >>YES PLEASE. >>I HAVE A COPY OF MY TESTIMONY IF YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP A COPY YOU CONSIDER IT BETTER. GREETINGS– >>RATINGS. >>I GO BY BOB FOR SHORT. AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR– WITH LYFT FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW, TO BECOME A FULL-TIME DRIVER IT HAPPENED JUST OVER THREE MONTHS AGO. BEFORE THAT, I WAS A PROGRAM COORDINATOR WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY COMPANY CONTRACTOR. BUT I THOUGHT I COULD MAKE IT BETTER WITH LYFT, AND I’M HAPPY HERE, FROM SWITCHING. ALLY WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IS THAT ALL SEATTLE FROM THE MOMENT SEATTLE TILL NOW, HAS BEEN ABOUT AGREEMENTS. AND YOU KNOW HOW MANY THINGS I AGREE WITH. YOU WILL ALL AGREE WITH ME, THERE IS ONLY ONE COLOR THAT THE ICS MOST. THE ICS MOST. ANYBODY KNOW? GREEN. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT IS OUR FOOD SOURCE, AND THE AVERAGE FOOD FIRST. THAT MEANS COLOR IS MONEY IS GREEN, EDUCATION IS GREEN. THE MONEY PUT ON THE DRIVERS, OR RIDE-SHARE OR PASSENGERS, WE HAVEN’T HEARD ALREADY. WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO COMPANIES DRIVER, WE APPRECIATE IT. LATELY, WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING, BUT PUTTING MORE MONEY TO THE RIDE-SHARE CUSTOMERS ALL THE TIME, THEY DON’T WANT TO PAY MORE MONEY, USUALLY THEY WILL HIRE LYFT, THEY WILL GET DRUNK 34, IF IT IS TO THE BENEFIT OF THE DRIVER OR NOT, I DON’T KNOW, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU, THANKS FOR THIS TIME, AND I HOPE YOU CAN LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE. >>THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, WE HAVE TERESA, MICHAEL, AND THEN PETER. >>HI, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MY NAME IS TERESA BOWMAN, AND AS I AM LISTENING TO THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION I AM REALIZING THERE IS A LOT OF GAPS IN UNDERSTANDING AND OPERATIONS, COMPENSATION AS WELL AS JUST RESOLUTION. SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR BOTH SIDES, AND I AM JUST WANTING TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE AND I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE TAX AND I AGREE AND ECHO A LOT OF THE DRIVERS HERE ARE SAYING. I DO– SO, I DRIVE AND 34 PART- TIME, ME TO MAYBE 2010 TO 20 HOURS A WEEK, MY AVERAGES ON THE LOW-END. MY AVERAGES ABOUT $20-$23, HIGH- END $35-$40 AN HOUR. SO, WITH THE HIGHER TAXATION, THAT IS GOING TO REDUCE THE DEMAND, AND I– AS BEING A PREVIOUS BUSINESS OWNER AND SEEING HOW THINGS ARE GOING NOW, WITH JUST PROPERTY TAXES, BUSINESS OCCUPATION TAXES, I KNOW THAT CUSTOMERS, OR EVEN ME MYSELF, AS A CONSUMER, IF THERE IS MORE TAXATION, I SPEND LESS. THERE IS LESS DISPOSABLE INCOME. AND SO, IF THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH RIDE-SHARE’S, THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AS WELL. WE KNOW THAT THERE’S A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE LEAVING SEATTLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING OUT OF SEATTLE JUST TO AVOID THE TAXATION, BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO HAVE A DECENT LIVING. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DRIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY TO MAKE A LIVING HERE, AND IT JUST MAKES IT– IT IS GOING TO JUST MAKE IT EXTERNALLY DIFFICULT. SO I THANK YOU FOR HEARING US OUT, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING, TERESA, AND MICHAEL. AND THEN PETER, AND I THINK WE ALREADY HAD LOTTO, HE SPOKE IN THE FIRST GROUP. SO PLEASE, GO AHEAD. >>I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, CITY COUNCIL. MICHAEL BOWMAN HERE, I HAVE BEEN A LYFT DRIVER FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS OFF AND ON, PART- TIME. AND I AM HERE TO KIND OF REPRESENT, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I HAVE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES, AND I SEE LIFT AS A– ANOTHER FORM OF A BUSINESS I CAN DEFINITELY LEVERAGE. AND I UNDERSTAND PAPER PERFORMANCE. I HAVE ENJOYED THE OPPORTUNITY THAT LYFT HAS PROVIDED, THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IT OFFERS, IN BEING ABLE TO RUN MULTIPLE BUSINESSES, I ROUTINELY MAKE ON THE LOW-END, $20 AN HOUR, AND BETWEEN UP TO ABOUT 40. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT I HAVE MADE $80 AN HOUR, AND THAT IS JUST BASED ON TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT LIFT HAS PUT PROVIDED. I DO BELIEVE THAT A TAX ON PASSENGERS WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT BOTH PASSENGERS, AND DRIVERS. DEFINITELY, LYFT DRIVERS DO EARN MONEY BASED ON TIPS, SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE PERFORMANCE SIDE OF THAT, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT PASSENGERS ARE CHARGED MORE, THAT THOSE TIPS WILL ALSO MAYBE NOT GO UP QUITE AS FREQUENTLY TO DRIVERS. THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO MAKE EXTRA INCOME ON A PER HOUR BASIS, I HAVE MADE UP TO $15 AN HOUR, IN JUST TIPS ALONE. SO WITH THAT, I BELIEVE A TAX INCREASE WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT BOTH PASSENGERS AND DRIVERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>THANK YOU, MICHAEL. PETER KUUL. OKAY, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND PLEASE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE S SHARE MARKEY? GOOD, IF YOU WILL COME UP, YOU WILL BE NUMBER TWO AND THEN MOHAMMED ALI. GOOD, PLEASE, GO AHEAD PETER. YES. >>OKAY, MY NAME IS PETER QUILL, I HAVE BEEN DRIVING LYFT FIVE YEARS, I PICK UP 3500 PEOPLE, AND GAP. I SUPPORT RIDE-SHARE, 100% NO DOUBT. UBER IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. UBER IS NOT WORKING FOR YOU. FROM THE TIME IT STARTED IT WAS $2.70 PER MONTH. AND NOW IS $1.11. THAT IS NOT UBER IS NOT FOR YOU. I AM SAYING, AS A DRIVER, WE NEED TO UNITE TO STAY TOGETHER AND BE STRONG. IN TERMS OF DRIVER BEING ATTACKED, IT IS AN ISSUE. UBER TAKE A DOLLAR AND 50 POOR INSURANCE. NOT PAYING AT ALL. WHO AMONG YOU CAN TELL ME GOT AN ACCIDENT UBER FIXED. NONE. WHY WILL IT BE A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO A CITY? THAT SERVE THE LIFE OF RUBBLE AROUND ALL THE TIME. WE NEED THE CERTAINTY OF DRIVER. DRIVERS BEING DEACTIVATED FOR NO REASON. I HAVE BEEN DEACTIVATED FIVE TIMES. AGAIN AFTER LONG TALKING DISCUSSION. THEY PUT ME OUT FOR ONE YEAR. OCTOBER LAST YEAR TO OCTOBER THIS YEAR. I AM OUT OF WORK. FOR 70 THAT HAD ME, I CANNOT BELIEVE SOMEBODY PAY ME. BUT THEY TOOK ME OUT OF BUSINESS FOR SOMEBODY THAT HIT MY CAR. MY FOR HIRE, AND I HAVE BEEN TO PASSENGERS WITH ME, AND AGAIN, THEY TOOK ME OUT OF BUSINESS. WE NEED THE CITY OF SEATTLE, PLEASE, WE NEED PASS THE LAW, NEED TO BE THE PERSON IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. >>THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >>AND WE HAVE A MOHAMMED ALI? HERE? >>THAT IS MY NAME. >>I HAVE GOT SURE MARK YEAH. >>YEAH, SMART YEAH. >>AND THEN MOHAMMED? ARE YOU MOHAMMED? >>MY NAME IS SACHIN BEEN BIT. >>YOU KNOW WHAT NUMBER YOU WERE WHEN YOU SEND UP? >>IT WAS RIGHT HERE– >>YOU SIGN THE LETTER? DID YOU SEND THE LETTER? >>NOT THIS ONE. >>THEN YOU WAIT. OKAY, IT’S IN HERE. >>SO IF THERE IS NOT A MOHAMMED ALI AFTER YOU, THEN OH DEAR, THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON 155th STREET? WITH A 4 TO 5 PHONE NUMBER? OKAY, AND THE NEXT AFTER THAT IS ERIC BALLMER, SO PLEASE, GO AHEAD. >>I WAS SUPPORTING UNION TEAMSTERS LAST FOUR YEARS, AND THEY DON’T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. PEOPLE WORKING EMPLOYEE PART OF SEATTLE EVERY DAY, THE FIVE YEAR UNION. SO, I AM QUIT FOR TEAMSTERS. I SUPPORT FOR SEATTLE DRIVER ASSOCIATION. WE FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS, AND WE KEEP FOR JUST MOVING FORWARD. TO FIGHT OUR RIGHTS. SO LAST TWO YEARS APPEAR, SUPPORT FOR TEAMSTERS AND I AM QUIT FOR, I MAY SEATTLE DRIVER ASSOCIATION. AND WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER. ALMOST LIKE 375 DRIVERS. ASKED, AND WE HAVE A I MEAN, THE UBER YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY CAN’T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. BECAUSE THEY CAN’T DO NOTHING ABOUT UBER. SO IF I SUPPORT FOR TEAMSTERS AND UBER ASK FOR UBER, BECAUSE I DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR NOT SO MUCH MONEY. $50 EVERY MONTH AND THEY CAN’T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. BELIEVE ME. BELIEVE ME, THEY CAN’T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. SO GUYS, DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME. JUST SUPPORT AS A DRIVERS, US AND RAISE THE MONEY. WE KNOW SEATTLE IS EXPENSIVE, EVERYTHING. SO JUST, I AM DRIVER DRIVER RIDE-SHARE ASSOCIATION. I AM NOT NO MORE TEAMSTERS. THANK YOU. >>OKAY, THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>SO, WOULD YOU TELL ME YOUR NAME? SO, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT IS 3607 EAST NORTH STREET 150– OH– YES. OKAY. GOOD, SO YOU WILL COME AFTER MR. PALMER. THANK YOU. PLEASE, GO AHEAD. >>I HAVE BEEN IN UBER AND LYFT DRIVER. FOR OVER 20 YEARS. I HAVE OVER 28,000 RIDES. I TYPICALLY RUN BETWEEN A 4.95 AVERAGE AND A 5.0 AVERAGE, I TALKED TO EACH OF MY CUSTOMERS. I HAVE BEEN INTO THE LIFT MEETINGS, AND I HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM DRIVE FORWARD. DRIVE FORWARD IS OWNED BY UBER, RUN BY UBER, AND MANAGED BY UBER. LYFT IS DOING THE SAME THING. THEY ARE BOTH ADVOCATING, SAYING THAT THE TAXES ARE GOING TO AFFECT THE DRIVERS. THEY ARE PUSHING THIS HARD. IF THEY REALLY THINK SOMETHING IS GOING TO AFFECT THE DRIVERS WHEN THEY TOOK THE SEARCH PAY AWAY FROM ALL OF THE DRIVERS, BUT THEY CONTINUE PAYING, CHARGING OUR CUSTOMERS? THAT IS WHAT COST US CUSTOMERS. WHEN OUR RIDES GO FROM FIVE DOLLARS UP TO $25? THAT IS WHAT AFFECTS OUR RIDE- WHEN THEY LOWERED OUR RATES DOWN, THAT IS WHAT AFFECTS OUR POCKETBOOK. IT NEEDS TO BE REGULATED. WE LET UBER AND LYFT COMING HERE UNREGULATED. THEY HAVE LOWERED THE FARES, THEY HAVE LOWERED THE PAPER, THEY ARE NOT REGULATED AT ALL, AND THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE DRIVERS. THIS BILL IS PRO-DRIVERS. I RUN THE IDA, WHICH HAS BEEN CREATED, IN ORDER TO CREATE BENEFITS FOR INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS, AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING OUR OWN RIDE-SHARE UP, WHICH WILL BE RUN PROPERLY. WE BELIEVE THAT A DOLLAR 75% PER MILE WITH NO SURGES WOULD BENEFIT WRITERS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, AND PUT BENEFITS ON IT WHERE THESE COMPANIES CANNOT CHARGE THE SURGES, IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PAY IT. >>THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AARON. ALL RIGHT, MR. JACKSON? MR. JACKSON, YOU ARE UP, AND WE HAVE GOT I THINK, 70 THAT HAS ALREADY SPOKEN. ALL JUST A MOMENT PLEASE, SORRY. I THINK HE WAS ONE OF THEM THAT SIGNED UP EARLIER. OKAY. I THINK WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT LAST PAGE. THANK YOU. AND THEN AFTER HIS CLARA CAN TOUR, AND JORDAN PENNY. THANK YOU. >>OKAY, HI, THIS IS TUCSON T JACKSON, I WENT TO ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING AND BARRY, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO, IT WAS ABOUT THE CARNIVAL AND THE CIRCUS COMING BACK, BECAUSE BACK IN THE DAY, WHEN THEY WERE REALLY HERE, IT HELPED THE ECONOMY. AND I THINK IT SHOULD MARCH WITH SPANIARDS, BECAUSE IF YOU DO, THERE ARE TAX WRITE-OFFS, AND PEOPLE COULD GET THEIR FOOD CUP AND DICED UP, AND PROPERLY COOKED, AND IT WILL HELP PEOPLE. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE CIRCUS COULD COME WITH MIXTURE, AND YOU FOOTBALL BOXING GYMS, BECAUSE I’VE BEEN TO A BOXING GYM THREE OR FOUR YEARS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TALENT AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE BODYBUILDERS AND STUFF THAT CAN HELP MY GREAT STUFF IF YOU PUT THEM IN CORNFIELDS, CEMETERIES, BARNYARD’S, DESERT, STUFF LIKE THAT, AND MAKING IT A CIRCUS ATMOSPHERE. THERE ARE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF A CIRCUS AND CARNIVAL. LIKE HALLOWEEN, THE ONLY TIMES ALL OF THESE HOLIDAYS, YOU MIX THEM UP TOGETHER, AND YOU CAN HELP THEM, AND THERE’S TAX WRITE-OFFS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THERE’S A LOT OF STUFF WITH THE CARNIVAL, LIKE RIDES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, FESTIVALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT CAN HELP THE ECONOMY, PEOPLE CAN TAKE PLANES MORE, AND THERE’S A LOT OF TAX WRITE- OFFS, AND IT COULD JUST BE BETTER FOR EVERYONE, IT’S A COMPLEX SITUATION, BUT I CARNIVAL IS GOING TO– CIRCUS IS BACK IN THE DAY, WHEN THEY WERE IN TOWNS AND CITIES, A LOT OF TIMES, AND THERE WERE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF IT, IT MADE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE FOR JOBS, AND YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TAX WRITE-OFFS, AND PEOPLE HAD MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET GET, AND I THINK WE CAN PROGRESS MORE TOWARDS THAT AND BUILD A FUTURE. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. CLARA CANTOR, HIS CLARA STILL HERE? THERE YOU ARE. AND THEN JORDAN PENNY. >>HI MY NAME IS CLARA CANTOR, I AM A HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE MASS COALITION, TO INVOLVE SEATTLE SUSTAINABLY. WE, AS A COALITION BELIEVE THAT EVERY PERSON IN SEATTLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AROUND WHERE THEY NEED TO GO SAFELY AND CONVENIENTLY, BY WALKING, ROLLING, BIKING, OR TAKING TRANSIT. AND, WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY TRANSPORTATION BUDGET SHOULD EMBODY OUR CLIMATE, AND OUR EQUITY GOALS. RATHER THAN UPHOLDING THE STATUS QUO. SO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF MASS COALITIONS, TRANSPORTATION PACKAGE, THUS FAR. AND ALSO, PARTICULARLY VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE MASS COALITION TRANSPORTATION PACKAGE, THAT HASN’T BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD IN THE BUDGET SESSION SO FAR, AND THE BUDGET PRIORITIES THAT COME WITH THAT PACKAGE. I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK PARTICULARLY WITH A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS, ONE, THE GEORGETOWN SOUTH PARK TRAIL. CONNECTING FROM GEORGETOWN TO SOUTH PARK, THESE TWO COMMUNITIES SHARE A LOT OF RESOURCES. AND RIGHT NOW, IT IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND DIFFICULT TO GET BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. THE BEACON AVENUE TRAIL. THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, BUDGET ASSETS, INCLUDING THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION COORDINATOR, TO HELP KIDS GET SAFELY TO AND FROM SCHOOL, AND ALSO TO RESTORE THE TRAFFIC CAMERA FUNDING. THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO SET ROUTES FROM SCHOOL, AND WAS SIPHONED UP IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, AND ENSURE THAT THAT TYPE OF THING DOESN’T HAPPEN AGAIN. AND THEN ALSO, SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE HOMES ON PILOT. WHICH IS CREATING SAFE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO WALK IN NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT CURRENTLY DON’T HAVE SIDEWALKS, OR OTHER PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO BE. SO, THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SUPPORTED THOSE PROJECTS, AND AMOUNT OF TIME. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THE THOMAS STREET NEIGHBORHOOD AND CROSSING BEFORE. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU, GLAD YOU ARE HERE. SO ALL RIGHT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO JORDAN PENNY, JORDAN, ARE YOU HERE? AND THEN, I AM GOING TO START ON NUMBER 51, AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE MAY BE SOME DUPLICATED NAMES, SO WE WILL WORK THAT OUT AS WE GET THERE. >>HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR JUST A LITTLE OVER 7 1/2 MONTHS, LYFT FOR ABOUT THREE AND HALF MONTHS. I CURRENTLY AM NOT WORKING WITH LYFT DUE TO THE FACT OF SOMEONE WHO WAS UNINSURED, HITTING ME BACK IN AUGUST, THE DAY AFTER MY 27th BIRTHDAY, HIT MY 2019 BUICK, AND I WORKED PERSONALLY FOR UBER AND LYFT. HE WAS UNINSURED, THEY SAID THEY WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO COVER ANYTHING, NOR MY INSURANCE, I WAS LEFT WITH A $2500 DEDUCTIBLE FOR SOME IDIOT DRIVER WHO WASN’T SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE ROAD GOT FINED $500 FOR HITTING ME. NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT YEAH, THERE’S A LOT OF TAXES THAT ARE BEING POSTED UP FOR YOU KNOW, BEING TAKEN OUT OF POCKETS OF CUSTOMERS. YOU ALSO IT IS GOING TO BE FROM THE DRIVERS OR THE COMPANY ITSELF, BUT IT STILL SCARES US, BECAUSE, LIKE ME, UBER IS A FULL-TIME JOB, I HAVE READ, I HAVE BILLS, I HAVE ALL KINDS OF STUFF I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. I ALSO PAID $224 A WEEK FOR A RENTAL VEHICLE THAT IS PROVIDED BY FAIR, THROUGH THE UBER AVENUE, I WAS GIVEN ONE CHOICE OF WHAT PLATFORM I WANT TO USE I CHOSE TO USE UBER. I HAVE GOOD RAPPORT WITH THEM. I CONNECT BETTER WITH THEM. I NOTICED THAT THERE USED TO BE THESE SURGE RISE, AND ALL OF THESE UPGRADED, YOU KNOW, LITTLE PROMOTIONAL THINGS, I DON’T KNOW IF ANY OF– YOU KNOW, THE REST OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN NOTICING IT, BUT UBER HAS A LOT OF PACKS AND GLITCHES THAT ALLOWED US NOT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE. AND WITH ALL OF THESE JOBS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HAVING, WE ARE GETTING SCARED, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BEING RISEN FOR THE CUSTOMERS, DECREASING WRITING, AND DECREASING THE INCOME THAT COMES AT OUR PLACE. WE CAN’T AFFORD, YOU KNOW OUR PLACES. WE WORK 24 SEVEN, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE TRAPPED WE CAN’T GO OUT IN REAL LIFE AND WE HAVE TO DEDICATE OUR SELF WORKING 12+ HOURS A DAY JUST TO MAKE ENDS MEET. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING. [ APPLAUSE ] SPECS I’M GOING TO READ UP ON OVER HERE 229-3533 OKAY, VERY GOOD, AND DID YOU JUST PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME FOR ME?>>SOUP KITCHEN? THANK YOU. AND AFTER SACHIN IS PAGE, AND WE HAVE ALL DUAL YOU SEE, AND ALL DUAL MAY HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE WITH A SIMILAR NAME, SO I DON’T WANT TO CONFLATE THAT. SO, PLEASE, GO AHEAD. >>MY NAME IS SACHIN BABBITT, AND I HAVE BEEN UBER FOR OVER SEVEN — OVER 6 1/2 YEARS. OVER SEVEN YEARS. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, THEY JUST YOU KNOW, MORE MORE CHARGING CUSTOMER MORE MONEY, AND WE DO HAVE EVEN, WE CAN SHOW THE REALITY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE GET OVER AND OVER CUT AND CUTS DOWN. BUT WE TALKING ABOUT 50 TWO QUARTER, AND A PENNY, TWO QUARTERS AND A PENNY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CUSTOMERS OR THE COMPANIES, THEY CAN AFFORD THAT, THAT IS NOT A BIG, BIG DEAL. THE CUSTOMER CAN’T AFFORD PAY SEARCH 10, 15, 20, $30. WHAT IS THE $.51? THEY ARE MAKING A BIG DEAL ON THE $.51? AND YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE GET HITS NO-FAULT, THEY GET THE ACTIVATION BECAUSE IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT. THEY ARE DOING THE THINGS THEY CAN DO, AND THEY JUST SORT OF LUCK, AND THEIR PAYMENTS ARE THERE, THEY ARE ALL EXPENSES ARE THERE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE MAIN CONCERN, THOSE PEOPLE DON’T CARE BECAUSE THEY ARE NO LIMIT ON THE CARDS, YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. BIG DEAL. THAT IS WHY THEY DON’T CARE IF 500 DRIVER GET THE ACTIVATION. SO WHO CARES? THEY HAVE 30,000 29,500 STILL WORKING YOU KNOW? THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING. SO PAGE, GOOD TO SEE YOU, HOLD TIGHT FOR JUST A SECOND, THEN AFTER PAGE ABDUL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE GETTY GEDI MOHAMMED? >>HI, I’M PAGE A LOT, AND I’M WITH THE SEATTLE STREETCAR COALITION, I’M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE FAIR SHARE PLAN, FOR FUNDING THE STREETCAR. LAST YEAR, OVER 24 MILLION RIGHT HAILING TRIPS WERE IN SEATTLE, A 16% INCREASE, YEAR OVER YEAR. OVER HALF OF THOSE TRIPS TOOK PLACE IN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR, WHICH WILL BE SERVED BY THE CENTER CITY STREETCAR. THE FAIR SHARE PLAN WILL RAISE FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE STREETCAR ON FIRST AVENUE, WHICH WILL SERVE 20,000 DAILY PASSENGERS. WITH 65% OF THE REGION’S CARBON EMISSIONS COMING FROM TRANSPORTATION, TAX ON RIGHT HAILING TO FUND A STREETCAR, POWERED BY 100% GREEN ENERGY IS A STEP WE CAN TAKE TODAY, TOWARD CLIMATE ACTION, ADDRESSING CONGESTION, AND BECOMING A MORE SUSTAINABLE CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE FAIR SHARE PLAN TO HELP IMPROVE MOBILITY DOWNTOWN. >>THANK YOU. >>I HAVE JUST BEEN GIVEN A NOTE FROM COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ELASTICITY DOCUMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER FROM THE MAYOR. WE WILL POST IT ON THE COUNCIL’S WEBSITE AS SOON AS WE GET OUR HANDS ON IT. I KNOW WHERE IT IS IN MY OFFICE, BUT THAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE ARE DONE TODAY. THANK YOU. ABDUL? >>HI, MADAM CHAIR, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS ABDUL I AM WITH EAST SIDE FOR HIRE, AND ALSO DISCOUNT COMMUNITY. I AM HERE FOR I HEARD ABOUT A COALITION THAT IS A SUPPORT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS MISSING IS OUR AGENDA ON IS NOT MORE ABOUT THE MERITS OF WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, BUT IT IS THE VENUE. WE CREATED ANOTHER COALITION, WHICH WE WILL SUPPLY SOME INFORMATION, IT IS CALLED NOT ON OUR BACKS, WITHOUT BENEFIT. BASICALLY, THIS IS THE ONLY INDUSTRY, WHERE MINORITY IS THE MAJORITY. OF THE DRIVERS. AND, THE WAY THESE THINGS IS PROPOSED IS, IN AFRICA, WE HAVE A SAYING THAT SAYS A DONKEY, A HUNGRY DONKEY CARRYING A BUCKET OF HONEY, SO REALLY, WHAT WE ARE ADVOCATING IS IF THERE IS MONEY TO BE RAISED FOR FIVE YEARS, THIS PARTY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT DRIVER, BOTH TAXI OR FOR HIRE, AND TNC DRIVERS, TO PUT MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS, THIS IS NOT PUT ONE DIAMOND THERE. AND NEITHER DOES BENEFIT THE COMMUNITIES OF WHICH THESE DRIVERS ARE FROM. SO, WE ASK YOU, AND WE SUBMITTED THIS LETTER TO YOU TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, THAT OUR DRIVERS AND THEIR CUSTOMS NEEDS TO TAKE A FAIR SHARE OF THE CITY’S BURDEN BEING IMPOSED ON ONE COMMUNITY AND ITS DRIVERS. UNDER THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>THANK YOU, ABDUL. THINK YOU GOOD TO SEE YOU. I WILL BOCK ARE, I KNOW WE HAD ONE GENTLEMAN SPEAKING WITH THAT NAME, WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE BEGIN WITH THAT SAME THEM? >>GETTY, IS THERE YAPHET? OKAY. PLEASE. >>MY NAME IS YAPHET. I WORK FOR UBER FOR TWO YEARS, LAST YEAR MY ACCOUNT IS DEACTIVATED. THEY SAY, BECAUSE OF A DOG. BUT I DON’T KNOW, WHETHER SERVICE DOG OR NOT? THERE IS NO ANY EVIDENCE. WHEN THE WRITER SHE CAME, SHE WAS YOUNG LADY, I ASKED HER HIS SERVICE DOG? YES. YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? FOR THE DOG? SHE SAID NO. AND SHE STARTS TO FIGHT BEFORE SHE GO TO THE CAR, SHE STARTED TO FIGHT WITH ME. AND SHE STARTED TO TALK UNNECESSARY WORDS. AND I WAS SCARED OF THIS LADY, AND I SAID TO HER, OKAY PLEASE TRY TO SPEAK PROPERLY AND POLITELY. AND SHE START TO FIGHT, BEFORE SHE COMES THE CAR. AND I SAID I OFFERED HER, BECAUSE OF HER BEHAVIOR, YEAH, AND I HAVE TO– I DIDN’T ACCEPT THE RIDE. THEN THEY THEY DEACTIVATED MY ACCOUNT. BUT I GAVE ABOUT 4300 RIDE WITH 4.9 I HAVEN’T ANY ISSUE, ANY PROBLEM. AND THEY SEE IS THE PROBLEM. AND POLICE, THEY SPEAK WITH ME ON THE PHONE. THAT IS A GUY WHO, I TRIED TO EXPLAIN HIM, I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND HIM WHAT HE SAID. AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM. PLEASE, FOR THE NEXT, IF WE HAVE A SERVICE DOG IS BETTER TO INFORM IN THE APP. THIS IS A SERVICE DOG OR NOT. YEAH. IF WE HAVE LIKE THAT, WE DON’T HAVE ANY ISSUE. I DRIVE ALSO FOR LEFT, I DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH 5.0 RATE. PLEASE, FOR THE NEXT YEAR TO EXPLAIN FOR UBER OR LIFT MORE INFORMATION IN THE APP. >>NICE, THANK YOU, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU FOR YOU TO GET REINSTATED BACK ON THE APP? >>SORRY? >>HOW LONG, AFTER YOU WERE TAKEN OFF? HOW LONG DID IT TAKE FOR YOU TO GET REINSTATED, SO YOU COULD DRIVE AGAIN? >>THEY DIDN’T REINSTATE. >>OH, SO YOU STILL ARE NOT DRIVING? >>YEAH, I KNOW NOT DRY FOR ONLY LYFT . >>THANK YOU FOR YOUR STORY. >>OKAY, WE HAVE GOT LET ME GIVE YOU ANOTHER PHONE NUMBER. 206830 0023 AS THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, PLEASE COME ON UP. IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO BABS. CANTOR. ANOTHER PHONE NUMBER, 206209972 FOUR YEAH, EXCELLENT, AND WHAT IS YOUR NAME? >>I’M CHRIS AGO BY FELIX, I WAS DRIVING FOR UBER AND I WAS DEACTIVATED LAST YEAR, SEPTEMBER 10th, AND IT TOOK MONTHS, GOING BACK AND FORTH BASICALLY WITH UBER, BEFORE THERE WAS NO RESPONSE, AS I’M GOING. THEY JUST DECIDED TO SEIZE ANY COMMUNICATION THEY WEREN’T GOING TO EXPLAIN, AND SO I FOUND AN ARBITRATION, AND THAT HASN’T GOTTEN TO PLACE UNTIL APRIL OF 24th, SO SIX MONTHS LATER, FINALLY GOT A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THOSE PEOPLE. AND THAT, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT SAFEGUARDS THIS ARBITRATION IS DIFFERENT THAN IN AAA ARBITRATION THE CITY IS GOING TO PROVIDE? BECAUSE HUBER HAS A LOT OF TRICKS IN HAND I BELIEVE, THAT THEY WILL TELL YOU WHERE THAT IS HOW THE ARBITER, THAT THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE IS THAT THEY HAVE ALL RIGHTS, BASICALLY. YOU KNOW, WAVING MOST OF YOUR RIGHTS ALREADY. I DON’T KNOW HOW THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT US ARBITRATION PROCESS, USE THE SAME STANDARD HERE. AND I THINK THAT UBER, IN MANY DIFFERENT INSTANCES, IN FRONT OF CITY, IN FRONT OF COUNTY, IN FRONT OF STATE. THEY HAVE STATEMENTS THAT THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING. THEY MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE OH, WE HAVE THREE STRIKES. BUT IN THIS ARBITRATION, THEY DENIED THAT, BECAUSE IT IS ALL OFFICIAL POLICY. IT’S NOT POSTED ANYWHERE, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO JUST PUSH AWAY THE RESPONSIBILITY. BASICALLY. MAKE A STATEMENT ENSURING WHATEVER POLICY AT THE TIME THEY WANT TO PASS, FOR LEGISLATION. AND, SO YEAH, I HAVEN’T GOTTEN REINSTATED SINCE, AND ACTUALLY RECENTLY, EXACTLY ONE YEAR LATER, I NOW NEED TO FILE BANKRUPTCY, SO NOW IT IS JUST THIS CRAZY PROCESS THAT YOU GO THROUGH, LIKE SPENDING LEGAL TIME, OR THAT THEY DON’T TREAT PEOPLE LIKE PEOPLE REALLY. FOR THEM IT IS MORE LIKE A NUMBER. SO– >>THANK YOU FOR YOUR STORY. >>I REALLY WANT TO KNOW LIKE — [ APPLAUSE ]. >>I APPRECIATE YOU COMING. YET NECK ALANA. AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE OH BOY, SEFH A DJ AND I. YOU NECK? >>NX, YEAH THAT IS ME. THANKS FOR GIVING US THIS CHANCE. I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS LIKE YESTERDAY, I WAS READY FOR PROPER SPEECH OR ANYTHING BETTER. BUT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH UBER, SO I HAVE BEEN DRIVING WITH THEM FOR LIKE THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, BUT I DRIVE FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE OF SCHOOL STUFF, SO I COME BACK AND AFTER THAT, LIKE THEY CANCEL MY AIRPORT TRIPS MOST OF OUR TRIPS ARE FROM LIKE AIRPORT TO DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE I AM DRIVING LIKE UBER , THIS ISSUE IS LIKE MOST OF MY FRIENDS, LIKE ALL DRIVERS, LIKE YOU KNOW? SO WHEN WE GO TO THE OFFICE, AND THEN ASK THEM, WHAT IS THE REASON, THEY CLOSING OUR ACCOUNT? SO THEY DON’T HAVE A REASON, LIKE THEY DON’T HAVE ANY REASON, BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT OH, WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSING YOUR ACCOUNT, THE ONE FROM CALIFORNIA PEOPLE THEY ARE THE ONES CLOSING YOUR ACCOUNT, SO WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING FOR YOU. SO WE BACK AND FORTH LIKE, WITH THEM, FOR THE SO MANY TIMES, SO I DON’T KNOW WHY THEY EVEN THERE. I DON’T KNOW WHY THEY GET PAID, THEY DON’T HAVE ANSWERS FOR US. SO WE CANNOT CONTACT THE CALIFORNIA PEOPLE, IT HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR LIKE OF YEAR, SO WE DON’T GET ANSWERS, WE DON’T KNOW WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO OPEN IT BACK, WE DON’T HAVE ANY CLUE FOR THAT, SO OUR JOB IS LIKE, SO STRESSFUL, BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION. WHENEVER WE MAKE UP LIKE, WE DON’T KNOW IF IT IS GOING TO CLOSE OR DEACTIVATED, OR WE GOING TO WORK. WE DON’T HAVE ANY CLUE. SO EVERY DAY IS SO STRESSFUL, SO WE WANT SOMEONE LIKE, TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS. TIME IS UP, SO I HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. BUT OKAY. NEXT TIME. >>BUT THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR COMING. I’M TELLING US YOUR STORY. OKAY, SO — [ APPLAUSE ] >>DANIEL JUST 30 SECONDS HERE. THE NEXT ONE, PEDRO, AND THEN ALL MEDULLA. AND ADAM. IN THAT ORDER. >>HELLO, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SEPHARDI. AND I AM DRIVING UBER BLOCK, I HAVE BEEN DRIVING SIX YEARS, AND LIKE, I DON’T KNOW. THEY DEACTIVATED MY PHONE, LIKE I HAVE APP STILL WORKING, BUT GIVEN TO ME FROM AIRPORTS DOWNTOWN, AND FROM DOWNTOWN TO AIRPORT, AND AFTER I AM BABYSITTER, I TAKE CARE OF MY DAUGHTER, AND I GOT FOR KIDS, SO LIKE, I DON’T HAVE ANY INCOME RIGHT NOW, LIKE I DON’T WANT TO TALK A LOT, BECAUSE HE EXPLAIN, AND A LOT OF DRIVERS, WE ARE THE SAME ISSUE. AND PLEASE, YOU GUYS, YOU HAVE A POWER, YOU NEED TO STOP THIS UBER, UBER IS KILLING US. SO I DON’T LIKE I DON’T HAVE CHOICE. I HAVE FOUR KIDS, I’M NOT TAKING ANYWHERE MY KIDS, I CANNOT AFFORD EVEN LIKE MY RENT. NEXT MY STEPS GOING TO BE LIKE MAYBE HOMELESS? YOU KNOW? STOP, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING. ALL MEDULLA, THEN ADAM. AND THEN TELL MOMMY. >>YEAH, PEDRO ESPINOZA, I THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE TO SPEAK. I BELONG TO A LABOR ORGANIZATION CALLED THE CARPENTERS UNION. SO, PRETTY BIG ORGANIZATION, AND WE BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO WANT TO UNIONIZE, WE BELIEVE THAT IF THE PEOPLE AND THOSE ENTITIES FEEL LIKE THERE IS AN ISSUE AND THEY WANT TO COME TOGETHER, THEN LET THEM. LAST TIME I CHECKED A LITTLE PIECE OF THE CONSTITUTION SAID LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, I THINK WE ARE TENDING TO FORGET THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE OWNERS AT THE TOP THAT, YOU KNOWS, USE FEAR TACTICS ON THESE WORKERS TO SAY HEY, IT IS GOING TO IMPACT YOU, YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE THE COST, BUT YET YOU SEE THEM ALWAYS RISING TO THE TOP. HEARING THE STORIES FROM THE WORKERS HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THEY ARE FRUSTRATED, THEY ARE NOT BEING REPRESENTED BUT YET, THEY ARE THE ONES OUT THERE DOING THE WORK. YOU NEVER SEE THE OWNER OF TRAN UBER OR LYFT ACTUALLY COMING OUT HERE DOING THE JOB BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT IS HARD, AND YES, EVEN THOUGH THEY DRIVE, IT IS AN ISSUE, BECAUSE THEY ARE PUTTING THEMSELVES OUT THERE FOR DANGEROUS ACTS, PEOPLE ROBBING THEM, PEOPLE DANGEROUS ENCOUNTERS, SO IF THEY WANT TO UNIONIZE, LET THEM. IT IS NOT GOING TO HURT THEM. IT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BETTER THEIR LIVES, YOU HEAR THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING THAT THEY ARE NOT GETTING A RESPONSE BACK FROM THE ORGANIZATION THAT MEANS THEY HAVE NO REPRESENTATION WHAT DO THEY DO? NOW THEY SIT THERE, THIS MAN OVER HERE JUST BOOK HE DOESN’T KNOW WHERE HIS GOING TO GET HIS INCOME. SO AS THEY ARE PUSHING FOR THEM TO NOT UNIONIZE, SHAME ON THEM. BECAUSE THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. >>THANK YOU. ALL MEDULLA. ADAM, AND THEN ALMONTE, AND THEN WE ARE CALLING IT A WRAP. >>HELLO CITY, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OLD OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS ALL MOMMY. I AM PLEADING WITH YOU FOR YOU TO HELP FIGHT AGAINST THE UNFAIR DEACTIVATION BECAUSE I WAS DEACTIVATED, I WAS ALSO DEACTIVATED BY UBER IN THE YEAR I THINK ONE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, FOR FOR NO REASON. AND THEN– I’M PLEADING WITH YOU, WHATEVER, THE CITY, TO HELP US AND FIGHT AGAINST IT. I WENT TO ONE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, TWO OR THREE TIMES I WAS REFERRED TO, THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE THE ONES NOT AT FAULT, THAT THE CITY DID IT. AND I WENT TO THE CITY THAT THEY RUN MY DRIVING RECORD EVERYTHING, THEY SAID EVERYTHING WAS OKAY. THAT THEY DID NOT DO IT. THAT HUBER IS A SEPARATE ENTITY. THAT I HAVE TO FIND OUT, MAYBE OR NOT I AM I REALIZE THAT THAT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME, THEY DECIDED TO IGNORE THE WHOLE THING. AND JUST MOVE ON. I HAVE BEEN DOING LYFT, BUT THE INTEREST OF THE MATTER IS IF WE ARE DOING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME THAT HELPS US A LOT BECAUSE IF ONE IS NOT BUSY, YOU CAN DO THE OTHER ONE THE OTHER ONE MAY BE BUSIER, BUT IF YOU RELY ON ONLY DOING ONE AND THAT ONE IS I AM DOING LYFT THAT ONE IS SLOW. GETTING A REQUEST. SO IN THAT CASE, I WILL PLEAD FOR YOU THE CITY YOU CAN HELP US FIGHT AGAINST AN UNFAIR DEACTIVATION. >>GREAT, THANK YOU. >>DO WE HAVE AN ADAM? AND ADAM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE I DON’T KNOW FAR? OKAY. AND THEN AN ALMONTE. OKAY WAS THERE IN OUR DOLLAR? OKAY THEN I THINK EVERYBODY WHO SIGNED UP HAS HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, AND COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE. WHAT IS THAT SIR? WHY DON’T YOU GO AHEAD AND GO I WILL TAKE THE LAST ONE. COME ON, WE WILL DO IT, WE WILL TAKE ONE MORE AND THAT IS IT. THANK YOU. >>OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A VERY QUICK AND SHORT. >>AND WOULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME PLEASE? >>MORE DATA. OKAY THANK YOU. >>I WAS DEACTIVATED ABOUT A MONTH AGO. THE WRITER HAS COMPLAINED THAT I WAS UNDER INFLUENCE. I WENT TO THE OFFICE THEY WEREN’T ABLE TO DO ANYTHING, BECAUSE THERE IS A SOMEONE WHO PUSHED THE BUTTON AND I AM SORRY I’M JUST A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS. AND I TRIED TO PROVE THAT I WENT TO GET A DRUG AND ALCOHOL TEST, BUT AT THAT TIME EVERYTHING WAS CLOSED, I DID IT THINK IT WAS ON MONDAY. THAT HAPPENED ON FRIDAY. I PROVED THAT ON MONDAY THAT DRUG AND ALCOHOL TEST THAT READS SIX WEEKS BACK. THAT EVERYTHING COMES UP NEGATIVE. IT COST ME FROM MY POCKET $314. THEY SENT ME THE DOCUMENTS. OF THE DRUG AND ALCOHOL TEST. AND THE EXPENSE TO REIMBURSE ME. I HAVEN’T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM YET. THIS IS HOW THEY DO IT. I MEAN, THERE SHOULD BE KIND OF MECHANISM THAT IF SOMEONE HAS I MEAN, SUSPICIOUS OF THAT, THEY COULD BE ABLE TO DO THE TEST WITH DRIVER EXPENSE, AND IF IT COMES BACK NEGATIVE, THEN THAT IS THE DRIVERS FAULT, I MEAN THE COMPANY ASSUMES PAY FOR IT. IF IT COMES POSITIVE, THEN THE DRIVER HAS TO SWALLOW THAT. >>THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >>OKAY, AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE, IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY FOR EVERYONE, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED, WE WILL PICK IT UP MONDAY AGAIN, WE HAVE FULL COUNSEL, AND OUR AFTERNOON SESSION WILL START APPROXIMATELY 2:30. THANK YOU.

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