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Making Oregon Count 2020 – Working in a Post-Citizenship Question Environment

Making Oregon Count 2020 – Working in a Post-Citizenship Question Environment


My name is Lizette Escobedo I am the director of the national census program at the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials Educational Fund. I know that’s a handful. We’re also known as NALEO E ducational Fund. You can just call us that And so as folks know some of the major challenges that we’ve had in terms of counting our Latino community Has been around this ongoing kind of battle to make sure that the citizenship question was removed but in the process a lot of damage was done and so I want to talk a little bit about how We’ve prepared at NALEO some of the things to think about We’re going to I believe I’m gonna present for about 15 minutes and then we’re gonna have kind of an open discussion I’ll be able to answer some questions. So As you think of questions, make sure to jot them down Great so what made the citizenship question so important for Latinos? So no other issue before the courts would have more direct consequences for the nation’s Latinos We like to think about the Latino population not just as a minority group But we are the second largest population in the country And so as Latinos go so does the country so it was a major issue for our community? questions Question raised concerns in all households native and foreign-born about the confidentiality of information provided to the government Based on the research that we’ve recently done This was actually not just an issue for a lot of your undocumented communities only or for undocumented peoples only It actually became an issue for all Latinos. We have a lot of mixed status households. Most of our households are mixed status So when we looked at both foreign-born and native-born it was an issue for the Latino community in general Census officials estimate that about 6.5 million residents would not have responded to the questionnaire And would have lowered response and would have driven lower response rates if the citizenship question would have been included in a survey conducted by SNL educational fund 78% of Latinos stated that the inclusion the citizenship question would make people afraid to participate in the census 2020 So while the citizenship question I’ll reiterate that the citizenship question will not be on Interestingly in the research then recent focus groups that we’ve done There’s a huge about 50% of the people that were in the room Thought the citizenship question was still going to be on so one it’s making sure that people know that it will no longer be on but also understanding that in the process of this battle the The news attention it receives a media attention among spanish-language media specifically Really kind of generated this sense of fear and this sense of thinking that the citizenship question will be on and we haven’t received as much promotion and as much information on the fact that the citizenship question will no longer be on so the effects remain there Sorry, I’m having issues with my clicker here So, how can this we actually? Pulled together. This was a result of some of the work that we did across the country where we actually Hosted listening sessions with some of our what we call Alejo census commissioners where which were some of the Latino elected officials across the country? We listened in to what organizations had to say. We listened in to recommendations from organizations, and we compiled a set of recommendations What and this was actually submitted to the US Census Bureau on what the bureau can do? now in a post citizenship question phase My making final preparations for self-response by paper and online and by phone as you all know the Bureau is preparing for that now But making sure that all the systems are in place and ready to go is going to be key As we know this is going to be one of the first online census. It will not just be online There’s gonna be different ways for folks to respond. But making sure that there’s no huge hiccups and Issues as they implement the work Launching a comprehensive partnership and communications plan will be key So we also made that recommendation to the bureau what folks should know though is that while the Bureau is investing a significant amount of money in ads and Getting the message out there through various news sources It will not be focusing on the on this particular message of the citizenship question will not be on This issue is kind of left on to us as providers and as service providers on the Most of the commercials and kind of PSAs and marketing plan will be focused on general information around the census What will be on who should get counted the PSAs are great. They just released them, but it will not Specifically hone in on the issue of the citizenship question We wanted to we want to make sure that the Census Bureau puts its information technology systems in place again folks remember what happened with the With the ACA. I don’t know folks. Remember and what happened when it went online? There’s a huge crash And so we want to make sure that businesses that have it with this census and we wanted to make sure that those systems have been tested so we’ve been actively Communicating with the bureau and working with the bureau’s kind of Technology Committee to make sure that everything is in place Fully developing its field presence for questionnaire assistance and follow-up with residents who do not initially respond to the questionnaire So again, this is a major issue because not only did we have this fight around the citizenship question There are less partnership specialists than in 2010 and 2020. There are less field operations There was about 500 office it field offices for the Census Bureau in 2010. Now it’s about 248 and there’s kind of less presence overall in terms of making sure that the bureau in 2010 when we did the census work the bureau is the partnership specialists in the bureau were everywhere so they became Trusted trusted faces and trusted sources now we have less of that and so we want to make sure that they receive the appropriate funding to To to continue that work, but to increase it the other things folks should know That we need to prepare for on a post citizenship question Era is the fact that we will not have brick-and-mortar questionnaire assistance centers like we did in 2010 Where we can all participate as questionnaire assistance center. The libraries would do that and the Census Bureau had designated Designated QACs more than likely now, they will move into mobile response units Which means that they’ll make themselves available for assistance community fairs and events They’re gonna be mobile which presents some Opportunities but also some challenges again because there will not be that kind of go to that we had in 2010 and we’re facing many More challenges than we had in 2010 There cannot be any further delays in these activities and it is particularly critical that Congress ensures a robust fiscal year 2020 funding for the census 2020 so As NALEO, when we look at Census operations and what we need to do in this moment when? We have all of these challenges with fear lack of confidence and the administration and the Department of Commerce We also look at what is the infrastructure and what are the needs to make sure that the Census Bureau executes this work appropriately The Census Bureau is not appropriately funded right now to execute the work that we envision I believe the QACS and the the mobile response initiative that I just mentioned is not appropriately funded There is still conversations around appropriations to making sure that We figure out how this two billion dollar funding gap for the Bureau is going to be resolved between now and November 21st So when we look at this post citizenship questionnaire again, we don’t just think about how do we gain the confidence in the Amongst communities but how do we make sure that we have an infrastructure that works for our communities? So community education information and reporting will be key and I’ll draw your attention to reporting because I’m sure folks are wondering what that means and so some of the work that we have to make sure and do is When the Census Bureau conducts non-response follow-up to a household that do not self-response. This means an enumerator will carve is a household So we as trusted sandurz need to make sure that we relay this information to our communities for the past Year or so? We’ve seen an increase in very public rates under this administration we’ve seen a very anti-Latino anti-immigrant rhetoric and so there is not that much trust in our communities and so on one end under kind of Our immigrant rights workshops, and I know your right to workshop We’re saying don’t open the door to anyone and then we’re saying oh wait a minute But in May there’s gonna come some numerators might come knocking on your door So do open the door But just make sure that it’s an enumerator right ice has a federal badge an enumerator has a federal badge So we need to make sure that we plan accordingly for how we relay this information What we’re saying as NALEO is we’re saying try to self-respond by April 30th 2020 to avoid as much as possible Anyone to come and knock on your doors, we know that in terms of the Latino community They actually find that as an inconvenience Anyone knocking on the door based on the focus group that we did So remind them to self-respond the best way again to avoid a census Enumerator coming to your house or calling you is by responding by April 30th. So that is the message. We’re telling our community If one or more questions on the census questionnaire is left blank The Census Bureau says that it increases the likelihood that it will attempt a secondary contact So again more important information to avoid a knock to avoid a call make sure that you respond by April 30th 2020 and that you respond with as much information as possible On our end as NALEO and as organizations We want to make sure that we work to educate the community about details of the non-response follow-up and assistance guidelines. So again, One of the things that we talked about in the previous panel Was the importance of making sure that we as trusted voices were providing accurate Information to our communities making sure that they understood when an enumerator goes out What triggers an enumerator and how to avoid an enumerator? If they want if they don’t want that interaction with the federal government The other piece that we talked about is making sure that our community understands what will and will not be on the census form the census form will not ask about immigration status It will not ask about citizenship. It won’t ask you for your bank account number it will ask you for your name It will ask you for your birthday and whether you rent, own, or just live in the household So these are all really key important pieces to make sure that as we’re trying to gain the trust of our community we can also provide them Accurate information on what the census is and isn’t In the lead up to 2020 census our national bilingual hotline 877 and senseless served as a trusted resource so one of the things that we’re doing to prepare in this Post citizenship question era is that we went from planning our hotline as an informational hotline Which is again 877-El-Censo, so to actually serve as the census protection hotline Our hotline will be partnering with the has partnered with the lawyers committee with the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund to make sure that as we’re flagging issues in the field or issues of fear as we’re flagging Any potential even raids that we’re making sure that folks have a way to report it in to our hotline and that we can do Something about it and take action work with the state attorney generals etc. But this this hotline is live now we initially planned the the launch date for our hotline as January 2020 and then we just kept seeing this new cycle around the citizenship question and the fear and the questions and more questions And we needed to make sure that our community had a vehicle to get in touch with us So we went from a January launch to a June 24th. 2019 lunch Just many sleepless nights for me but Our hotline is completely live if folks want to report anybody going out into their community asking for their bank account asking for their immigration status Folks should feel encouraged to call us to this hotline We do have actively a reporting mechanism and we work in partnership with our league organizations It will be something more formal formalizes the census protection operation. Once we go into 2020, but we are live that’s kind of been our kind of bread and butter to prepare for a post citizenship question era. A rapid response plan will be put in place to address again reports of any potential impersonators or misinformation In the state of California the legislature actually passed an additional an additional bill to add on Additional fines to the existing fines if you act as a as a census enumerator or impersonate one to try to get information That’s something else that we’ve encouraged other state and other state legislators to do as well So again This kind of became one of our most popular slides and all of our trainings and presentations. It’s very important that as we talk about the census and this work what we’ve seen is that when we say Hey, the citizenship question will no longer be on it sometimes raises more questions for our community, especially if someone didn’t know that it was ever on the table then they say Oh, wait a minute. Maybe I shouldn’t fill it. What are you talking about the citizenship question? So what we’ve tried to do is combat that misinformation and disinformation with a lot of accurate information So if nothing else remember, what is on the questionnaire? This is the only things that the census questionnaire will be asking folks aside from relationship to person one It’s basic information one of the things that we are seeing and I would like for you on I don’t have the answer yet is That the question around Hispanic origin is raising a lot of red flags in our community because what we’ve been hearing in our focus groups is specifically Latino millennial men interestingly asked why there is a second question aside from race that asked whether they’re Hispanic or not and they see it as hey the citizenship question wasn’t on but now there’s this one to target us, right and That’s actually not the case. It’s very important to inform a community that the Hispanic origin question was actually added in 1970 so the census as a result of a battle of various civil rights groups wanting to make sure that that question is included so that our community So that data Hispanics to implement civil rights policies the Voting Rights Act etc was enforced this is something that we fought to get But right now what we’re seeing is in our community, they they think that this is another way to target Folks so this is going to be a huge battle Especially for Latino serving organizations, but the folks who work in hard to count Latino areas. This is going to really be our next battle Again what it will not ask it won’t ask for criminal background or convictions. It’s not going to ask Anything around permits or licensing, you know, do you can can your can your Diaz family live in the garage? That’s not what is gonna ask right some people that’s what they’re afraid of And so making sure that or that our community understands that So to again to decrease the likelihood of anyone knocking on folks door fill it out early and soon if they can online even better an enumerator this is again what we’ve been seeing and some of our in some of the areas where were organizing specifically in Central Valley, California has That organization are actually including this information as part of your immigration or your rights workshops where they’re saying What will an enumerator ask and not ask one but two what will an enumerator do and look like? 1 an enumerator will never ask to enter your home 2 they will identify themselves and wear a US Census Bureau badge 3 they will only ask questions that are on the questionnaire. This means that they will not ask about citizenship or immigration status very important they will never ask ask you for for or request additional documentation if anyone comes to the door and says I’m an enumerator and I want to make sure That you’re here documented and I want to see those papers. It’s not an enumerator and that should be reported right away So we’ve had to kind of shift how we talk about what will and will not be on the census and information around the census because of these conversations that have been had But folks should know and understand that every a person in the household must get counted in our focus groups actually in our National Survey close to fifty percent of Latinos thought that people who were Undocumented shouldn’t be counted not because that’s how they felt but it’s because of what they heard, right? So we have to be the folks to inform everyone that everyone in the household should be counted now Well, a lot of folks not make themselves count. Absolutely. We’re living in a tough time The rhetoric is there and there’s only so much we can do But can we inform our community of what will be done with their information and what will not? Definitely one thing that’s not on here. That folks I didn’t put it on here because I have very few time and I feel like folks have heard it a lot is the data confidentiality And security there is a Title 13 Law on the books that protects people’s data confidentiality now Can can I go and say I can assure you personally that? Your aggregate information will not be shared Probably not but there is a title on the books. I am sorry There is a law in the books in the visual information is not shared Even the visual information is shared say I’m an enumerator and I decide like hey, I want to let somebody know that In this household, there’s five people That’s breaking the law and there is a fine of up to $250,000 or up to five years in jail. I don’t know any basic information from what you saw in there that is worth $250,000 at least not mine And so it’s very important to remind the community that there is consequences There is a way to report it and that they are protected by law. There is no administration There is no president that can override that Now there is an executive order that folks have probably heard about the president announced in terms of sharing information across Agencies, this is a very complex topic It does it does have to do With the data that the federal government will share with the states for the sake of redistricting and whether they’re going to share citizenship data or not And it does have to do with us Organizing our state legislators to make sure that when they’re looking at the citizenship data that the administration provides that they are not using it To draw districts because that’s not what the Constitution says but that will be left up to the data and up to we the people I mean the Legislature and up to We the People to advocate to make sure that redistricting is done fairly and justly in our states So executive order is a whole other I didn’t want to put it up there because I felt like it was gonna open a whole other can of worms but folks should know that that’s That’s something that groups are working actively on and that’s going to be a fight. That’s gonna take this ball beyond 2020 and 2021 And that is all I have on a post that is that there’s so much more but I know my time is limited and I Wanted to give folks time for questions So, I don’t know do we open it up the floor for questions? If you have questions raise your hand, I believe there’s a mic runner. Yes Attenuators Mandatory supported a Stacey abuse with elderlies for children You said how do they report if they see it? From the oh you’re saying from the numerator not that I know of so not that I know of So so the question is if an enumerator goes to a household and sees any abuse of The elderly or of children, are they mandated to report that? I Don’t know the answer to that I want to say no based on just the Policy itself and what the enumerator is supposed to do because they’re not supposed to enter the home But I’d have to get back with you on that because that might be a Census Bureau question and I want to speak to them Yeah Yeah, that’s a great question I hadn’t thought about it yeah Any other questions, I think And Vivian Veidt reporting actually for the Pacific Sentinel What is Oregon’s proactive communication plan for combating disinformation particularly about the citizenship question on the informal agreement with ice about staying away from census events Can you repeat the question? Why are you you’re asking specifically about Oregon, right? But repeat your question again. Yes So you’ve spoken about? passive engagement with Through NALEO through 1-800-El-CENSO Mmm How is your organization of what is Oregon’s plan to? Proactively combat disinformation campaigns regarding the census So I don’t know what the state’s plan is But I can give you a kind of national view of how we’re working with the different states I think I met some of the folks from the governor’s office. So I got to connect with them So in terms of combating disinformation So there’s a couple of things going on right now The National Organization. So there’s a national coalition of organizations that represent different communities who represent the latin-x community There’s a Asian Americans advancing justice. There’s a Leadership Conference of civil and human rights, etc And so what we’re working on is we actually have something called a disinformation lab Where we’re monitoring any type of disinformation that may be out there and then we’re sharing with the organizations and the groups What what information they need to? Put out in the communities to combat that right. So one is on the information side now There that’s going to be a huge lift for a couple of reasons One there’s going to be misinformation is Misinformation on purpose where someone might want to purposely tell people that undocumented folks should not be counted and then there might be misinformation That’s not a purpose that maybe we’re the complicated. The census is a very complicated issue, right? It’s just ten questions ten minutes, but to the operations, there’s just so much more misinformation can even mean an organization saying on April 1st 2020 Enumerators will go out into your community to get counted. That’s actually not true. Right April 1st is 2020 April 1st 2020s census day Enumeration starts in March, right. So we have to combat one the the kind of entities that might do this on purpose to Inoculating the misinformation that might be on their out of goodwill, but just lack of information and then three on the reporting end We’re working on a couple of things So one is yes reporting it to the lawyer’s Committee and to MALDEF and we’re working with Asian Americans advancing justice who also has their legal team and So a couple of things that we’re looking at is how do we model the election protection? Model that we have so we’re part of the election protection coalition where once we flag an election protection issue we Basically have to deploy attorneys into the into the regional areas to figure out what is the issue Is this something that could be resolved? Is there something that’s going to require litigation? And then how do we work with either the city county or the state? In this particular for this particular matter, we will also be working with the attorney general’s for each state. So We just start engaging in conversations in the state of California with the Attorney General and we’re trying to figure out how do we bring on the Attorney General’s from all of the other different? States where there’s a huge amount of Latino hard to count communities because it’s kind of one of our priority Our priority audiences but the plan is to bring in the Attorney General’s to this conversation As we’re flagging the issues and where they’re coming from I will say that more than likely the states that we will prioritize in terms of having those conversations will be where we’re seeing more of the other kind of small sliver that we should think about is the fact that When operations start You know self-response non-response there sometimes are some nuances that have big effects on our community There might be certain areas where? They they decide that hey Internet is just shouldn’t be a first option paper should be a first option We should shift that around and so the way that they receive stuff in the mail might not be The same as what we’re saying on TV and telling them right? And so we need to make all of those rapid a response shift So that’s another thing that we’re planning for and that’s part of the rapid response that we mentioned. So Once we hit the ground in 2020 that’s just when the when the madness starts there would be a lot but That’s in a nutshell kind of the areas that we’re focusing on There is another there’s a tech piece. So there is a An effort at the national level with Facebook Twitter and a couple and reddit Where they’re gonna be focusing on how do they flag misinformation and on their? on their platforms We started those conversations with them a while back to hold them accountable and not say hey So it’s just a platform where folks post we don’t know what they post We try to monitor as best we can well, we know that that’s very hurtful right from what we saw in 2016 And so we are actively working with them on figuring out how do we flag those and what are some of the keywords that we’ll have to be looking out for so it’s a kind of multi-layered approach But you know also than a rely on community to report and what they’re hearing and seeing because we won’t be able to be everywhere If you would yield to a second question in regards to the Executive order could you elaborate on the threat posed by? This attempt to district based on citizenship instead of population yeah, so Basically what so with the initial the initial conversation, and because I’m not a Legal expert there might be things that I don’t know But I’ll try to give you the best that I can in terms of summary So the initial the initial reasoning that the administration had beyond including a citizenship question was for the implementation Of the VRA and to make sure that we had accurate and enough data on the citizens of voting age population right knowing how many people are citizens so that when We draw districts. It’s based on citizens and not whole populations. Well, we know that directly goes against the Constitution right and so the the kind of second way that they saw in trying to do this is looking at records administrative records data that they might have from multiple agencies to figure out whether someone’s a citizen or not right looking at Social security information basically every agency that they have access to to figure out whether those folks are our citizens or not one We’re not sure that information is accurate Some of those workers are old To The other the other kind of piece of work that they’re doing is asking States to also contribute to that data With through DMV records, I’m sure folks saw a lot of the news stories around Various states saying that they were gonna contribute or not in, California Obviously this state is opting to not so they won’t be providing DMV records. It’s up to the discretion of the state So again now you have another layer of inaccurate information So that’s one piece of it that you might be working off a very inaccurate data two is that we believe that every person should be Represented and so as the Constitution says to make sure that we draw districts based on On the whole persons living in an area and not just citizens It really is undermining democracy in the Constitution And so that’s how we see it from that perspective. There are kind of some nuances that the legal community is having conversations and discussions about right now But I will say a good starting point Is really advocating at the state level to ask your your state whether they are cooperating with The executive order or not and making sure that they’re not So while we’re working on again the implementation doing the outreach, which is all great work There’s a lot of this kind of institutional Backend work that we have to do to make sure that once 2020 Passes that the executive order doesn’t also hurt the political power of our community but again, there’s a lot of nuances that someone in the legal community might be able to Probably answer a little better, but that’s my that’s my kind of spiel on it Can answer the question on the DMV There is a state law than perhaps prohibits state and local government from providing immigration data on a person Unless there’s a very very narrow set of circumstances all of which involve criminal activity. No, we’re not Oregon’s not providing that and couldn’t if it wanted to without amending the state statute? Awesome, that’s crazy here Check that off Any other questions? Thank you for your presentation, Lizette It was there’s a complicated topic that’s had twists and turns over a long period of time and thank you for succinctly Summarizing what is a very complex issue I’m curious if you could talk a little bit about what NALEO’s Partnership looks like with States in particular in the non-response follow-up phase So we’re you know well situated here in Oregon having state resources that when we get to the point where we move from the response period self-response to the non-response follow-up We like many other states will be looking at the census response rates by tract and being able to Deploy get out the count efforts and the tracts that are falling behind in terms of response rates, but I’m curious for states that do not have the resources available For the get out the count and or maybe not as well organized. What’s NELEO’s approach in terms of? partnering with local organizations in those places particularly for ensuring that The count is as high as inaccurate as possible and hard to count tracts particularly for the Latin-x population yeah, so we’re doing a couple of different things and so while our Resources are limited and we’re actually not We’re actually not a very huge team like my national census team was just me and one person I just hired last week But the cool thing is that I ran the Hagase Contar! campaign in 2010 and I ran all of our Ya Es Hora civic engagement work So it’s a model by which we work which is a scalable model So some of the things that we try to do is one to make sure that we create Informational guides fact sheets a lot of the cool census button swag etc in a way that’s scalable for other groups We provide that across the country not in super massive quantities, but in some quantity So so here’s the model that we’ve developed in terms of working more closely with in 2010 We didn’t have the huge issues that we had now and we also didn’t have the same amount of organizations working on this issue so we were able to provide a pretty good amount of swag and Information and actually travel to most of the areas but now it’s a little bit more more challenging So we’re doing multiple things one is we’re working in states that don’t have any funding So you you know interestingly to know the state of Texas passed zero funding the state of Florida zero funding There’s a couple of other states, I believe in Nebraska and some other ones that have passed no funding for census outreach so At the state level. There’s literally no resources aside from philanthropy So one of the things that we’re doing is we’re working with a national philanthropy group They meet a recorder to go over what are some needs in some areas where we need to dedicate funding to And that we need to make make sure and have at least small a small pot of funding This is not gonna be a lot of funding and it’s not gonna meet the need of every community But we’re trying the best as possible So one is through the funding mouth 2 is actually looking at what is the local leadership look like in terms of elected officials? So NALEO, we have a membership of 6 thousand latino elected officials across the country We’ve been training them since 2018 on the census training them not just on what is the census and why it matters but on how to actually establish complete count committees and how to sway the people in their in their City Council how to sway people in their school board to pass actual dollars for the census. So we do have a Resolution templates, we have a complete count committee template before we had one before The the bureau’s one is great and we had one before then. So we just kind of promote both of them now but making sure that when our elected officials decided to Have some leadership and a complete count committee that I had dollars attached to it, especially in those communities where you had zero dollars So for example in miami-dade Miami-dade is a good example where? We work closely with one of the school board members And she was able to pass again. Very slim line item But it was something compared to zero at the state level. So that’s one piece So part of it has been we’ve been working providing technical assistance to build the infrastructure for this work and then the other piece of work that we did or are doing is Developing turnkey tools, right? So if I am an organization? And I was just in Kentucky two weeks ago where there were a lot of small organizations and said hey We’re kind of the only thing in town serving Latinos and we have no resources we have Very little in house staffs. We think this work is important So we’ve we’ve provided them tools and these are again turnkey tools where they just literally need to plug in the information of the organization And hit print on their printer And so we’ve developed a 30 page communications toolkit We have resources in English and Spanish but we’ve made them turnkey in the sense that instead of you know saying hey, you’re gonna go here and then you’re gonna download this and then once you download it, These are just here’s a PDF Putting out a hundred if you need a hundred print out 200 of you need 200 and then if you need to go and work With a small business to get funding to print these materials. Here’s a template budget on how much it cost All right, so we have template budgets. We have template budgets on how to do a train-the-trainer again template resources for resolutions and then the other big piece of our work has been Working closely with our spanish-language media partners. So we have a national partnership with Univision Telemundo and Travicion and so one of the things that we do is we we just did this mapping last week where we looked at all of their media markets and their affiliates and We were able to say Here’s where we have some presence here’s where we don’t but where we can maybe identify some groups that are there that can do some of that some of the new stories, right And so we want to make sure and plug in those groups and media markets where we’re not at The other piece that we’re doing is we’re saying the Census Bureau is gonna release there by plan there ad by plan at the end of It was initially in November I believe now, it’s December where we’re gonna get a sense of all of the buys that they’re doing across the country And so one of the things that we’ll be doing with our spanish-language media partners is saying where are the gaps? Advice right and then we’re gonna look at okay Well now the state is also doing this right we’re blessed in California and that we have 187 million But but it’s not the same in every state, but we want to for for us actually as NALEO We’re not doing any ad investments in California because it doesn’t make sense. There’s no gaps Right, and so one of the pieces the analysis that we’ll be doing is looking at where are those gaps for paid media? And then sharing it with our partners in figuring out. How do we come in and try to help with Latino communities? so that we’re investing in a smart way and Sharing it with our funders to see where is the investment needed? And so there’s again Looking at how we provide technical assistance On the infrastructure building and then on the very practical its we have the handouts of worksheets English and Spanish We do have our partners at Asian Americans advancing justice who are translating Informational material in about 30 languages and so we do have access to them as well because it is a national partnership. So whatever, you know to be very honest whatever the organization has the need for we probably already have it and if we don’t Another organization will probably need it So we’ll need to develop it anyways So that’s how we I get to travel The country and get a sense of what those needs are and then develop them in a mass scale But that’s in essence how our our national infrastructure functions to make sure that we meet the the local needs as well as the national Great, that’s about it for questions. So I want to thank Lizette for her presentation. Thank you so much.

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